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james0246 2012-11-14 00:42

[Manga] Naruto Chapter 609 Discussion Thread
 
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Super_Gilby 2012-11-14 00:54

Awesome chapter but Naruto, Kakashi and the 9 tails need to be beat down for being so cheap and it looks like Orochimaru and Sasuke will aid Naruto and company because theres no way those 4 stand a chance with the 10 tails and Madara there x.x

Izayoi 2012-11-14 00:54

What happened to Sasuke?

Taco Bell 2012-11-14 00:59

yah i dont really see how naruto/bee/gai/and kakashi can fight 10 tails along with madara and obito. The only thing I could see is the 10 tails attacking and then running out of energy because it only has part of the 8 and 9 tails.

Good chapter though I liked the strategy used by the kyubii to toss kakashi in to attack from both ends. Looking forward to the huge fight next chapter.

Super_Gilby 2012-11-14 01:01

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Originally Posted by Izayoi (Post 4437823)
What happened to Sasuke?

Sasuke is not in the chapter but the 10 tails was revived and I was just saying the odds are so stacked against the ninja alliance that Sasuke and Orochimaru are probably going to help them ... although I hope not

strategos 2012-11-14 01:08

So it seems that the Nine Tails can cast chakra on its allies.

Aesthetic Shampoo 2012-11-14 01:32

Kakashi could have made things a lot easier by just pulling out a kunai and stabbing Obito instead of punching him while on the other side.

Freya 2012-11-14 01:46

and the Jyuubi is out!!! Shit just got real.

beyondsaving 2012-11-14 01:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco Bell (Post 4437828)
yah i dont really see how naruto/bee/gai/and kakashi can fight 10 tails along with madara and obito. The only thing I could see is the 10 tails attacking and then running out of energy because it only has part of the 8 and 9 tails.


I wonder if not having the 8 and 9 tails is why madara is saying something like "oh well" in the last panel..

Sasukemaru 2012-11-14 02:03

A lot going on in this chapter, obito got his ass kicked, they have the perfect counter to his jutsu so he is effectively nullified.

Madara is just chilling on a rock watching obito get beat, basically not giving a damn about anything. The juubi awakens, and he doesn't seem to give a damn about that either..it seems like he really isn't too invested in the infinite tsukiyomi, and is more interested in becoming a jinchuiriki to become more powerful..

Why does everyone assume it's the alliance vs madara tobi and juubi? I honestly think the juubi doesn't give a damn about madara and obito and will not think twice about attacking them either...

Basically i think the juubi is it's own team, why would it work with ppl who want to enslave it and use its power?

ronin myael 2012-11-14 03:19

not a bad chapter. i liked that little panel where naruto looked completely surprised when the kyuubi allowed kakashi to get absorbed by obito's dimension. it's been a while since this series made me laugh. it was a welcome change. :D that's probably the best part of this chapter.

solidguy 2012-11-14 03:21

Are we seriously gonna let Kishi get away with the revival of the Jubi....without even capturing the 8 and 9 tails? I know it was mentioned previously that this was gonna happen but...meh...to me it feels like a cheap cop out. The whole purpose of the war was to protect the two Jinchuuriki from being captured to prevent the 9 tails capture. But it seems Tobi + Kabuto already had everything they needed to revive the Jubi without even going to war! Pointless war from a nose-diving manga...
On the positive side of things...atleast the ball is rolling plotwise. I wonder how team Alliance will deal with both Madara AND the Jubi? Madara has already shown that he is capable of solo'ing entire armies by himself through his comet jutsu...and the elite soldiers of the alliance have been thinned out.

Ulquiorra 2012-11-14 03:22

So now we know why Kishi had the Alliance army move at a snail's pace. They'll arrive just in time to save Naruto and gang from getting destroyed.

The Jyuubi also needs to show off and since all of them outside of the rookies can die, what better group to arrive?

Quote:

Originally Posted by EssTEss (Post 4437852)
Kakashi could have made things a lot easier by just pulling out a kunai and stabbing Obito instead of punching him while on the other side.

And ruin Kishi's milking of the Obito story? At this point, I wouldn't have minded if Obito got gutted. He has become Kakashi's personal villain more than the story's main villain. Madara and the Jyuubi are far bigger threats and have eclipsed him as villain.

But his plot needs resolving. And it won't end without a lot of angst, tears, and likely change of heart. Bet you anything the smart people in the Alliance(Nara) come up with a plan to defeat the Jyuubi and it requires someone to sacrifice themselves. Perfect role for a villain wanting to make good.

The Small One 2012-11-14 03:38

I don't really understand, why Kakashi came back again. He should have stayed on the other side to continue hitting Obito.
And why was Obito surprised that he got hit, just after sending Kakashi there? Kakashi should have been out of Chakra, but hitting doesn't really need Chakra.

Ero-Senn1n 2012-11-14 04:09

Obito's dimensional jutsu still doesn't make sense, and neither does how he uses it. At least he should teleport people to another place in his empty dimension, not where his body parts appear. Why didn't Danzou's two guys punch him when he teleported them away? If it was the small bugs guy he could have infested his teleported body parts by simply touching them. Also how can he teleport to other real world locations using his dimension if he can't even teleport to different places in his own dimension.

The problem with this chapter was that Madara didn't do anything despite 2 chapters ago he stated that he will capture the 9 tails. Sure Gai saved Naruto from the chakra-sucking-monster-dragon but after that Gai is unable to do anything, so why doesn't Madara do the same thing again and simply capture both demons. It doesn't make sense. Naruto didn't get any powerups nor did he use any clever trick to fool Madara, i was expecting some ass kicking moves from both Madara and Naruto instead of Kakashi punching Obito's body parts lol

Madara's behaviour in this chapter makes sense if he changed his mind, and just wants to see the incomplete 10-tails kicking some ass before collapsing, because now that he is immortal and has all these powers he can just have fun in the real world, which means he betrayed Obito. I mean when Madara was not an Edo Tensei his plan made perfect sense, he would be the one to cast the eternal tsukiyomi, but maybe in his fight against the 5 kage he began to realize that he wants to have fun instead of ending the world in which he is now a supreme warlord that he always wanted to be. And if he gets bored he can still capture the last 2 demons and make a proper eternal tsukiyomi to end everything. His betrayal of Obito is needed in order for Obito to turn against him and probably before he dies he will admit to kakashi that he was wrong and then he gets some kind of happy end.

drulo 2012-11-14 05:42

What Kurama did made me laugh :heh:

I think this war lost its point, this war was started because Obito wanted to get the Kyuubi and Hachibi, now that the tentails was revived with out their full chakra [which I thought they needed] then what was the purpose of this war? Maybe to gather all the ninjas for one concentrated attack? I dont know.

P.S. Madara was just chillin' on a rock :heh:

Rickketik 2012-11-14 05:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidguy (Post 4437939)
Are we seriously gonna let Kishi get away with the revival of the Jubi....without even capturing the 8 and 9 tails? I know it was mentioned previously that this was gonna happen but...meh...to me it feels like a cheap cop out. The whole purpose of the war was to protect the two Jinchuuriki from being captured to prevent the 9 tails capture. But it seems Tobi + Kabuto already had everything they needed to revive the Jubi without even going to war! Pointless war from a nose-diving manga...
On the positive side of things...atleast the ball is rolling plotwise. I wonder how team Alliance will deal with both Madara AND the Jubi? Madara has already shown that he is capable of solo'ing entire armies by himself through his comet jutsu...and the elite soldiers of the alliance have been thinned out.


On top of that, I can NOT follow the fights anymore.. It's so damn confusing! The "art" is just overly detailed (too bussy) And the lay-out design is getting more ridiculous by the week. I just can not tell who is hitting who and the sequence of things.. Especially the fights involving the tailed beasts is an absolute disaster! It's like the fight scenes in the Transformers movies, except this is in manga form.. That makes it even worse.

Am I the only one?

Kenu 2012-11-14 06:16

A decent chapter finally.

Kakashi should have Raikiri'd Obito's ass in the other dimension.

~Yami~ 2012-11-14 07:22

Kurama is being awesome here....
that combined Bijuu's bomb is cool as well

Jyuubi is nasty... not cool looking at all...
ten tails... wood body (or geido mazo's body)... with one big Sharingan eye...

Bombo 2012-11-14 08:45

Kurama you amazing "there ...go fight now "ROFL


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