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monir 2012-11-17 00:14

Sword Art Online - Episode 20 Discussion / Poll
 
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General of the Blazing Flames - 猛炎の将 ~ Mōen no Shō

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Deltaray 2012-11-17 10:27

Wont lie, it really was worth to wait for Alicia Rue.

LoweGear 2012-11-17 10:30

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Haru-kun 2012-11-17 10:34

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Crap, how in the world did Haruyuki get in there?!?!:uhoh:

Deltaray 2012-11-17 10:39

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Now now...

holybell84 2012-11-17 11:30

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Spoiler for LOL:

Divini 2012-11-17 12:00

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Yes Haru, that's how it's done. Now show Hime the same attention! ;)

RRW 2012-11-17 12:08

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what happens on other end

Lantern 2012-11-17 12:10

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Originally Posted by holybell84 (Post 4441829)
Spoiler for LOL:

Spoiler:

deep_freesze 2012-11-17 12:52

Still Raw ???

Newfan 2012-11-17 13:58

Lol, this ep had a little more fan service than usual.

I wish my Japanese was good enough to pick up on more of the conversation. :(

Klashikari 2012-11-17 14:26

You know, when the fanservice parts are better animated with more consistent sakuga than actual battle scenes, that says a lot on the direction of the episode...

Anyway, the first half was terribly slow, with the scenes being cut and disjointed by info dump, with little care about how it was a momentum break.
Second half was much better in that regard, and we have finally a much better albeit short glimpse of Kazuto concern, which had the proper vibe, although the alliance help would rather be Leefa's suggestion there :heh:

It is finally time for Asuna to make her move, although again, from a game and program perspective, I fail to see why there isn a simple directive that would deny any action done by Asuna within the game firmware... Ah well, that's Sugou for you.

One major complain here: how the hell ALO Kirito can dual wield? This skill does not exist in ALO, and here he manages to pull that without any penalty and still using obvious dual wielding moves (it isn't a mere: have 2x 1h sword equipped).
And a side note: would it be correct to assume that the Salamander Lance platoon chief claimed Kirito was with an undine player to make up for being spared by Kirito early on? That's a tad... out of proportion, especially how it affects his own faction...

bastek66 2012-11-17 14:41

http://i.minus.com/ioF4gFwTjMmjc.gif
What a nice animation.

Deltaray 2012-11-17 14:51

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Originally Posted by Klashikari (Post 4441963)
You know, when the fanservice parts are better animated with more consistent sakuga than actual battle scenes, that says a lot on the direction of the episode...

Anyway, the first half was terribly slow, with the scenes being cut and disjointed by info dump, with little care about how it was a momentum break.
Second half was much better in that regard, and we have finally a much better albeit short glimpse of Kazuto concern, which had the proper vibe, although the alliance help would rather be Leefa's suggestion there :heh:

It is finally time for Asuna to make her move, although again, from a game and program perspective, I fail to see why there isn a simple directive that would deny any action done by Asuna within the game firmware... Ah well, that's Sugou for you.

One major complain here: how the hell ALO Kirito can dual wield? This skill does not exist in ALO, and here he manages to pull that without any penalty and still using obvious dual wielding moves (it isn't a mere: have 2x 1h sword equipped).
And a side note: would it be correct to assume that the Salamander Lance platoon chief claimed Kirito was with an undine player to make up for being spared by Kirito early on? That's a tad... out of proportion, especially how it affects his own faction...

Most likely wield system is "free" you have your slots for sword and so on, but you can still wield something, sure it doesn't give you any bonus but it can still do basic damage based on how fast you swing it, as ALO damage formula was.

Attack speed + weapon damage stats + hit location - opponent armor defence = damage.

RRW 2012-11-17 14:56

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Originally Posted by bastek66 (Post 4441971)

DAT Animation Budget :twitch:

even her ass is shaking :bow:

Krono 2012-11-17 15:06

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Originally Posted by Klashikari (Post 4441963)
One major complain here: how the hell ALO Kirito can dual wield? This skill does not exist in ALO, and here he manages to pull that without any penalty and still using obvious dual wielding moves (it isn't a mere: have 2x 1h sword equipped).

No sword skills exist in ALO, the weapon stat is used for something other than what skills you can use. All sword combat is just swinging a sword around without any system controlled attack patterns.

As such, holding a sword in either hand isn't considered an erroneous configuration, and lacks the penalty SAO had of being unable to use sword skills. In other words, any one can dual wield in ALO, as long as they have the skill and coordination to wield two swords at once. Kirito, having used dual wield in SAO for months, can dual wield as he's had the necessary practice, and unlike in the real world, he can pull off duplicating the pattern of some sword skills in ALO.

Znail 2012-11-17 15:11

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Originally Posted by Deltaray (Post 4441979)
Most likely wield system is "free" you have your slots for sword and so on, but you can still wield something, sure it doesn't give you any bonus but it can still do basic damage based on how fast you swing it, as ALO damage formula was.

Attack speed + weapon damage stats + hit location - opponent armor defence = damage.

I think it was Agil that told Kirito right from the start. There is no Swordskills in ALO, that means it's all basic attacks done entirely by the players. It also means that the only limit on what weapons you can use is the weapons you as a person can handle and thus dual wielding just requires knowing how to do it. This means that Kirito wont be the only one able to do it as there are some martial arts that practice dual wielding. And of course there are some actual ambidextrous people that can use both hands independently by birth (I have actually met a girl that could do that, she could write with both hands at the same).

Yusei Fudo 2012-11-17 15:18

very awesome episode 8D

Twin swords is back!

Dark Wing 2012-11-17 15:21

Okay that battle was awsome!

nb4 trolls arguing "HOW CANS HE DUELZ WEILDZ!?" :heh:

ZGMF-X10A 2012-11-17 15:22

lol so that extra skill only applies when the person blocks and not when the sword clashes. I remember saying that Kirito is in a new game will he use Nitoyru again and now we see it. haha he just took the sword from leafa


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