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LoweGear 2013-03-21 03:03

Mobile Police Patlabor [Live Action 2014]
 
ANN: Mobile Police Patlabor Gets Live-Action Project in 2014

http://i.imgur.com/H227oBz.jpg

Now this is one unexpected announcement :eek: Not quite sure about how I feel about it being live action, but more Patlabor is good :D

Vallen Chaos Valiant 2013-03-21 03:09

It actually works; the show was never about robots, but about a bunch of regular cops who just happened to have giant robots. So other than the obligatory action scene at the end of the film, the rest of the time can be done without much CGI other than having giant robot props in the background.

They can probably hire the KURATAS guys to make a functional cockpit mockup for filming that replicates the TV show.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-03-21 03:22

I Just hope that they don't hand over this franchise to Hollywood. Maybe a little technical help from ILM for the VFX and a more "open-minded" director like Ang Lee but that's it.

Vallen Chaos Valiant 2013-03-21 05:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4599489)
I Just hope that they don't hand over this franchise to Hollywood. Maybe a little technical help from ILM for the VFX and a more "open-minded" director like Ang Lee but that's it.

All signs point to a Japanese project. Hollywood simply won't touch this show, as the idea of a bunch of cops not saving the world every week is boring to them.

DRAGUN H.E.X. 2013-03-21 05:28

i would LOL if the if the Labors were actual functional REAL mechs in behind the scenes in the vein of the Kuratas instead of using some props & CGI for the shooting, i wonder how many dollars would that cost, for only like just two to three real working Labors & still not counting all of those other grunt versions just for some movie shoot? :uhoh::heh:

Vallen Chaos Valiant 2013-03-21 06:01

I expect nothing more than cockpit props in terms of physical hardware. It is simpler to build a cockpit +CGI ranged shot instead of either having it all CGI bluescreen or to build something fullsize.

Bluescreen acting is too hard. So SOME props would be physical at least. CGI is not always the cheapest option.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-03-21 06:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X. (Post 4599564)
i would LOL if the if the Labors were actual functional REAL mechs in behind the scenes in the vein of the Kuratas instead of using some props & CGI for the shooting, i wonder how many dollars would that cost, for only like just two to three real working Labors & still not counting all of those other grunt versions just for some movie shoot? :uhoh::heh:

Yeah, for now, using CG for a movie is a lot cheaper than actually constructing a real-life customized giant robot. My movie history is a bit rusty, but from what I can remember, the last movie that use actual giant robot is Jurassic Park III for the Spinosaurus. Even movies like Transformers, Terminator Salvation, Real Steel, Avatar, Prometheus, etc already rely more on CGI than actual huge machines.

Vallen Chaos Valiant 2013-03-21 06:09

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4599584)
Yeah, for now, using CG for a movie is a lot cheaper than actually constructing a real-life customized giant robot. My movie history is a bit rusty, but from what I can remember, the last movie that use actual giant robot is Jurassic Park III for the Spinosaurus. Even movies like Transformers, Terminator Salvation, Real Steel, Avatar, Prometheus, etc already rely more on CGI than actual huge machines.

Obviously making a robot full size is out.

But there is no question they WILL build a cockpit for real. It is a set piece that would be constantly used and at close quarters to the camera. And the actor/actress would have to interact with it. Making a CGI cockpit would cost too much.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-03-21 06:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant (Post 4599587)
Obviously making a robot full size is out.

But there is no question they WILL build a cockpit for real. It is a set piece that would be constantly used and at close quarters to the camera. And the actor/actress would have to interact with it. Making a CGI cockpit would cost too much.

Well, I never said anything about using a cockpit :P. I'm not arguing against it.

Bri 2013-03-21 06:48

Looks interesting. Hope this movie opens the way for another Patlabor anime project as well.

tsunade666 2013-03-21 07:08

wow.... a live action seriously? I wish to see the robots works even if its tons of cg.

Vallen Chaos Valiant 2013-03-21 07:14

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4599608)
Well, I never said anything about using a cockpit :P. I'm not arguing against it.

I am not arguing with you either. :P
Just another point about CGI, it is interesting that during the revolution in CGI film making, there was often times when the studio built complex electronic props of dinosaurs, sharks, etc, and yet ended up never using them because CGI caught up in tech and replaced them entirely during filming.

In the end it is about doing what is the most affordable. Ironic that now stop motion animation all but died out, they are now more expensive to hire than cheap CGI.

Small sets are best done for real. Large sets seen at a distance are best done CGI. Blue Screen is best limited in a small budget because it is costly to do it well.

This is going to be a Japanese production. I am not expecting anything more than direct-to-cable movie quality as the budget would be tight.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-03-21 07:48

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant (Post 4599633)
I am not arguing with you either. :P
Just another point about CGI, it is interesting that during the revolution in CGI film making, there was often times when the studio built complex electronic props of dinosaurs, sharks, etc, and yet ended up never using them because CGI caught up in tech and replaced them entirely during filming.

They abandon Stop-motion but not animatronics. Jurassic Park 1-3 still use animatronic dinos assisted by CG. Even in recent movies like Transformers, Terminator Salvation, Real Steel, they still use some animatronics.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant (Post 4599633)
In the end it is about doing what is the most affordable. Ironic that now stop motion animation all but died out, they are now more expensive to hire than cheap CGI.

Stop-motion (as VFX, not as movies) officially dead when Spielberg abandoned it after Michael Lantiery showed him how CG was so much better-looking than the jerky stop-motion animation. So, even if (at that time) CG is more expensive than stop-motion, Spielberg will still use CG because it is simply better. Plus, he knew that audience in the 90s can’t be fooled by stop-motion anymore, not after they saw Terminator 2’s T-1000 and the CG effects in The Abyss years prior. They’ll recognize the fake creatures made of clay the minute they see their jerky movements. In short, they abandon stop-motion VFX coz it already looks bad and dated and audience will not buy tickets for action movies that use stop-motion VFX.

Vallen Chaos Valiant 2013-03-21 08:16

Electronic props are still often needed when you want interactions with human actors. Or at least, it is the most believable for closeups. We will always have props, it just works better. We use CGI only when props are too expensive.

Blue Screen (Green these days) works, but it is limiting.

LoweGear 2013-08-03 08:02

Some pics of the full-scale Labor models they're using :eek::eek::eek:

http://i.imgur.com/wCLYElyl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UOqq5lhl.jpg

Yu Ominae 2013-08-03 08:36

I don't know whether to slap my own face or LOL at the Free Uyghur watermark there.

But otherwise yeah, looks like some of the peeps involved in Patlabor are officially attached as production crew.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-08-03 09:13

Wow, giant robots have become more and more popular in live action movies recently. This year we got Jaegers from Pacific Rim; Bryan Singer is still shooting with Sentinels in his upcoming X-Men: DoFP; Transformers 4 is coming and Patlabor’s Ingram props looks awesome in that pics above. Somewhere, Gundam is sulking at the corner for being left out from the party :heh:.

LoweGear 2013-08-03 09:50

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4780442)
Somewhere, Gundam is sulking at the corner for being left out from the party :heh:.

Gundam did have a live action production once before, G-Saviour.... unfortunately, it tanked bad :heh:

Edit:

More shots of the Ingram:

http://i.imgur.com/FzYNsM4l.jpg
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ElCachicamo 2013-08-04 02:13

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 4780491)
Gundam did have a live action production once before, G-Saviour.... unfortunately, it tanked bad :heh:

Edit:

More shots of the Ingram:

http://i.imgur.com/FzYNsM4l.jpg
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OMG this looks awesome, I like it a lot more than those shitty robot designs in Avatar, Pacific Rim, Transformer and Matrix. I wasn't expecting this at all O.O.

MrTerrorist 2013-08-04 02:22

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Originally Posted by ElCachicamo (Post 4781361)
OMG this looks awesome, I like it a lot more than those shitty robot designs in Avatar, Transformer and Matrix. I wasn't expecting this at all O.O.

Fixed for you.


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