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Pellissier 2013-04-24 11:04

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MrTerrorist 2013-04-24 12:14

Kyon in Robot form. :)

Dawnstorm 2013-04-24 13:09

One of the things about reading the original Gargantia thread: When people said "I like Chamber," I never actually understood that they included the robot. To me, Chamber has always been the AI and Ledo and Chamber together piloted the robot (which is unnamed).

I can't remember which post opened my eyes. And now, of course, there's the picture on top of this thread.

Kirarakim 2013-04-24 14:10

Chamber is the mecha but he is also an AI. Usually the mecha doesn't talk but the hero will still talk to the mecha.

Gargantia is just giving the mecha an actual voice.

Utsuro no Hako 2013-04-24 16:46

If Chamber is as smart as he seems, why does he need a pilot?

ReddyRedWolf 2013-04-24 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utsuro no Hako (Post 4651680)
If Chamber is as smart as he seems, why does he need a pilot?

Cause humans don't want an AI revolt on top of an alien menace? :uhoh:

Kirarakim 2013-04-24 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utsuro no Hako (Post 4651680)
If Chamber is as smart as he seems, why does he need a pilot?

He isn't though and still needs human guidance when something out of the ordinary happens.

ThereminVox 2013-04-24 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utsuro no Hako (Post 4651680)
If Chamber is as smart as he seems, why does he need a pilot?

What's that idiom? "A computer is a very fast idiot."

Jan-Poo 2013-04-24 18:51

Chamber does show some difficulties at understanding human logic. For example he doesn't understand why Ledo doesn't simply subdue the whole fleet and after Ledo returns from his massacre Chamber comments that the Gargantians' reaction defies any logic.

I suppose that the alliance doesn't want to entrust its weapons to AI alone, it wants a human mind to make the important decisions. Judging by their chosen symbol then, it seems that they glorify humans which probably means that they don't trust anything else may that be robots or other lifeforms.

p-kun 2013-04-24 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utsuro no Hako (Post 4651680)
If Chamber is as smart as he seems, why does he need a pilot?

My impression from the 3 episodes is that Chamber is in charge of weaponry, while Ledo is in charge of steering. Check ep 1 when Ledo steers the mech out of instant death.

Utsuro no Hako 2013-04-24 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirarakim (Post 4651701)
He isn't though and still needs human guidance when something out of the ordinary happens.

He needs guidance when dealing with humans, but he's not really designed for that -- he's supposed to be a weapons platform that carries out a tactical plan in conjunction with other weapon's platforms in order to deliver maximal firepower at a selected target. Given how badly the humans screwed up in the first episode, I don't see what they added to the fight that Chamber and his brethren couldn't've handled on their own. If human supervision is necessary for handling contingencies, they could have one pilot commanding a wing of unmanned mechs.

NoemiChan 2013-04-24 20:32

A robot diplomat/liguist

Kirarakim 2013-04-24 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utsuro no Hako (Post 4651932)
He needs guidance when dealing with humans, but he's not really designed for that -- he's supposed to be a weapons platform that carries out a tactical plan in conjunction with other weapon's platforms in order to deliver maximal firepower at a selected target. Given how badly the humans screwed up in the first episode, I don't see what they added to the fight that Chamber and his brethren couldn't've handled on their own. If human supervision is necessary for handling contingencies, they could have one pilot commanding a wing of unmanned mechs.

I don't know about you but I don't think I would want an AI in control of that type of destructive power.

backbone 2013-04-24 21:13

Based on what i've watched so far, Chamber seems only capable of thinking logically but not emotionally, hence his confusion about the reaction of people on Gargantia after massacring entire pirates. And perhaps he needs a human pilot to make up for it

lightbringer 2013-04-26 06:00

Chamber needs a human component to provide lateral thinking and decision making. You don't leave that up entirely to a machine, unless you want to actually lose the war.

DRAGUN H.E.X. 2013-04-26 22:37

still waiting for somebody to replace Chamber's mannerisms with Kyon or Gintoki's for the sake of LOLing around......

Raviel 2013-04-27 00:29

I don't think Chamber's mannerisms need any changing, there's already a ton of potential humor with his current attitude. :heh:

DRAGUN H.E.X. 2013-04-27 01:44

anyone else expects him to sing like this during all of those serious moments? (such as the life & death situations?)


:uhoh::heh:

Marly 2013-04-28 23:46

I'm actually curious as to whether Chamber prioritizes his own pilot or the Galactic Alliance.

Raviel 2013-04-29 02:12

He's an interface meant to support pilots so I think it would only be logical that he prioritizes the survival of the pilot. Chamber also makes several suggestions to Ledo on how to best get through their predicament when they first land on Earth and all of them had to do with preserving the pilot's life.


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