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Pellissier 2013-05-25 06:32

Suisei no Gargantia - Episode 8 Discussion / Poll
 
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Renegade334 2013-05-26 08:18

First part:

Spoiler:

EDIT - second part:

Spoiler:

EDIT bis - ep.09 preview:
Spoiler:

END picture:

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MisaoFan 2013-05-26 08:35

Spoiler for Episode 8:

Shinhwa 2013-05-26 12:28

I feel the tragedy is coming soon slowly...

andyjay729 2013-05-26 12:34

You know things are getting serious when a lady lets her down.

bastek66 2013-05-26 13:03

Now we must wait a week
http://i.imgur.com/KAfNG59l.jpg

Helius 2013-05-26 13:08

Not much worth mentioning, really. But at least we now know the Alliance is in the same galaxy, some 6,000 light years away from Earth apparently.

Endless Knackwurst 2013-05-26 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helius (Post 4697735)
Not much worth mentioning, really. But at least we now know the Alliance is in the same galaxy, some 6,000 light years away from Earth apparently.

That at least Josses the time travel speculation.

ookamigirl 2013-05-26 13:16

So Ledo is stuck on Earth.
The funeral part was as expected... sad and gloomy.
Seems like everything is falling apart.
The new commander's speech was rather nice.
I was surprised Ledo decided to leave.

hai_san 2013-05-26 13:30

Very strong empathic ep this week. I dont think we can to categorize mecha as main theme anymore, SnG has so much deep. Ridget, Bellow, Pinion and Ledo, Amys, Bevel etc have so much interaction it was great. Since this serie is only 12/13 ep long? Ledo probably wont ever return to the his Galactic Alliance, since he is 6000 lightyears afar, and it is unlikely the Alliance will somehow return to earth. The main conflict could be with the earth Hideauze and conciliation/reunifications of the Gargantia fleet. But really i dont even know what to expect for the last remaining eps. The Story could go anywhere, but i hope for a very very good ending.

ps: for the next ep preview Ledo and Pinion seems to be surprise/shock ..

GDB 2013-05-26 13:33

I really feel this series doesn't know what it wants to be. They spend all this time doing random stuff, and building up characters that they've now essentially discarded. There aren't many episodes left, and they haven't gotten anywhere, so they can't afford to split remaining time between Ledo and Gargantia. And given how prominent Amy is in the OP/ED, you know everything's going to have to come full circle and end up back at Gargantia.

They spent almost the entirety of the episode on the funeral, which was touching and nice to see, but they didn't really build this character up enough to make his funeral have that much impact that any other character wouldn't have also been able to do.

I guess, in short, I've lost faith in this series. I tried to hang on after it seemed they were finally going to move the plot along, but it's obvious to me now that Urobuchi needed more hands-on time with this project. First and last episodes are not enough.

Revolutionist 2013-05-26 13:38

Why would the alliance not go to Earth if they're looking for a habitable planet?

edit: I guess this is irrelevant since Chamber's SOS will take 6500 years to reach the Alliance...

GDB 2013-05-26 13:41

When they last left it, it was uninhabitable. They presume that to still be the case.

Shadow5YA 2013-05-26 14:07

Who was the artist for the endcard of today's episode?

Kaoru Chujo 2013-05-26 14:14

I haven't "lost faith" in this series, but I think a lot of GDB's criticisms hit the mark. The one thing I disagree with is that the show "doesn't know what it wants to be." It is a human drama, not a mecha show. It has just enough mecha to keep tantalizing mecha fans and keeping them around. Maybe.

In any case, much as I enjoyed this episode (mainly for Amy's controlled despair), it seems like it would have worked better in a 26-episode series than in a shorter one.

As for Pinion, I'm finding him totally loathsome. Selfish, nasty and stupid sums it up. I kind of hope he is the first to die, but only after realizing what a d*ck he has been.

Ridget was portrayed as too soft for my taste. If she is really the one to run Gargantia, she would have been more together and proactive in the crisis.

DuelGundam2099 2013-05-26 14:19

I just watched the episode and it was.... Decent, but not interesting, at least in comparison to some previous episodes. I think they were trying to hard to make it depressing, but I suppose they needed to get out as much character development as they could before more good parts show up. I kind of liked the idea that Ledo is not fighting hideauze JUST to exterminate them anymore.

creb 2013-05-26 14:33

Ridget simply suffers from Japanese anime culture that loves to portray women as needing help (though, to be fair, that humble humility is supposed to be a positive trait if I understand Japanese culture). I try not to judge too harshly, even if I'd never in a million years ever put such a person in a leadership role. Might make a good middle manager, but that's about it.

The series itself seems to have pacing issues, though I think it's becoming a bit clearer where the it's all going to come to a head.

It appears the Alliance won't be a factor, which I'm genuinely surprised about, which means no dances with the wolves climax, meaning the actual climax will be far more low key and almost certainly be a lovey-dovey affair with Ledo realizing he doesn't have to follow his mission and can live a normal life. Nothing wrong with that, but if they'd just shut Chamber down in the first 2-3 episodes, there'd be less false expectations on what to expect out of this series.

Pinion may be a cruddy human being, but I try to think about what life is like for these people, restricted to a flotilla their entire lives, with no modern conveniences, and then suddenly having something shake up that monotony with almost ungraspable power. This is a genuine chance to shake up the status quo and possibly jump start civilization's progress. It's just a shame that it's being catalyzed by one of the stupidest characters in the series, rather than say the council of captains.

With Ledo stuck on Earth, he's no longer a transient issue, and the captains seriously dropped the ball on not re-evaluating how they would deal with him and his god-like powers (they seem too content to hope he'll be gone soon and leave their world like how it was prior to his arrival).

All in all, this particular episode kept up the unfortunate glacial pacing, and while I fully expect a little more action as they attack the nest, I don't know that there will ever be enough to make it anything other than slice of life/drama.

I may have initially thought this was going to be this season's Shinsekai Yori, but I think I'm going to have largely forgotten about this anime within a year or two. It's not bad, but it's not particularly compelling either.

joshuafaramir 2013-05-26 14:34

Meh... I know this episode was an important turning point, a crossroad, where people have to chose which way to go but somehow, it was boring. Ah well, now that we have this important but boring episode out of the way, on to some squid smashing, gun toting episode. Too bad the brown girls stayed behind.

Entravity 2013-05-26 14:38

Not bad, but it's definitely not above average. I like the funeral scene when he got dumped into the water. Everything else is just okay though.

ginger02 2013-05-26 14:56

I really loved this episode, especially Saaya. You could tell how sad she would be for Amy to leave, but she also understood Amy's feelings.

The music was fantastic in the episode, and I enjoyed little tidbits like Ridget untying her hair and the sunrise. The burial process was interesting too.The whole leaving your home alludes to, well when anyone has to leave their home, like students or families.


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