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monir 2013-06-01 00:11

Suisei no Gargantia - Episode 9 Discussion / Poll
 
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bastek66 2013-06-02 08:31

Hideuze were humans
http://i.imgur.com/gmxfgAC.gif
My mind is full of fuck.

MisaoFan 2013-06-02 08:37

Spoiler for Episode 9:

Kiavik 2013-06-02 08:37

I said "Holy Shit" out loud.

Principalities 2013-06-02 09:29

Towards the end, it looked like Chamber mercilessly killed the human like Hideauze without Ledo's permission....

konart 2013-06-02 09:43

Oh, what a nice Blue Submarine No. 6 we've got here!

mikeomni 2013-06-02 10:21

Oh wow! Damn, that guess was right!

Shinji103 2013-06-02 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Principalities (Post 4705746)
Towards the end, it looked like Chamber mercilessly killed the human like Hideauze without Ledo's permission....

He did, but that was because he's programmed to kill them. He isn't entirely capable of suddenly thinking "Oh wait, they're human" and not kill them just because he saw a video contradicting everything he's been programmed to view as fact.

But yeah, "OH S***" revelation. :twitch:

How long is this series supposed to be, anyway? Episode 9 seems pretty early for such a plot-shattering development, unless this is a one-cour show. If this is supposed to be a 24-26 episode series, it means we've got some really serious "OH S***" moments on the way. :uhoh:

Algent 2013-06-02 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by konart (Post 4705754)
Oh, what a nice Blue Submarine No. 6 we've got here!

When I saw the human-looking embryos I knew something was off but...
This, holy sh*t I absolutely didn't saw it coming, it's the biggest twist I see in an anime in a while. :eyespin:

If they wanted to make us empathize in the "crushing" scene just after, it was more than successful :upset:.

Kaoru Chujo 2013-06-02 12:36

From relentlessness: "Suisei no Gargantia (13 TV Episodes + 2 BD-exclusive Episodes, 3 BD-Boxes, 5×3)"

Booom! Plot gets blown up.
Spoiler for ep9:

andyjay729 2013-06-02 12:37

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jz7rFuZZZc

But seriously, I think this episode should at least partially restore the show's reputation in the haters' eyes.

Also...

Spoiler for episode 9:
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aohige 2013-06-02 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo (Post 4705894)
From relentlessness: "Suisei no Gargantia (13 TV Episodes + 2 BD-exclusive Episodes, 3 BD-Boxes, 5×3)"

Booom! Plot gets blown up. I felt as if Ledo was convinced emotionally a bit too easily, but we shall see. Happy ending: he integrates with Gargantia and he and Amy live happily ever after. Tragedy: how will he exculpate himself from killing all those evolved humans? By dying? Has he destroyed the future for Gargantia and the others? Will the local Hideauze be able to realize that he is not a killer any more?

Will he have to power Chamber down, to avoid it killing more of the evolved humans? Perhaps the story from here on is Ledo against Chamber.

Anyway, this is a development I did not anticipate. That they might be friendly aliens, I did. But evolved humans? Not in my mind.

By the way, I expect a happy ending by ep13, with the two BD episodes like OVAs showing life for LedoxAmy. But I have happily been surprised already, so who knows.

Hmm, from what I gathered from the episode was, these Whale-Squids are not evolved humans, rather, they're the descendants of the artificially created beings that when combined with humans, become the space-Hideauze.

There seems to be three different species involved here.

Humans - homosapiens
Whale-Squids - the "Evolveds" created by humans, that can adapt to any environment
Hideauze - Human genes combined with the Evolveds, and set out to conquer space. In conflict with old human race over territorial conflict.

Whale-squids looking somewhat humanoid is probably because they were created to combine with human genes in the first place.

andyjay729 2013-06-02 12:44

Spoiler for episode 9:
"You used my hands to kill him!"

PS, you really should use spoiler tags about the
Spoiler for episode 9:
for now.

PPS: Knowing that Gen is a Stephen King fan, was anyone else thinking of "The Mist" in how the area is misty, and they're fighting tentacled monsters?

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-06-02 12:44

I guess we get ourselves “Urobuchi Gen did it again”-moment this episode :p.

aohige 2013-06-02 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyjay729 (Post 4705903)
Spoiler for episode 9:
"You used my hands to kill him!"

PS, you really should use spoiler tags about the
Spoiler for episode 9:
for now.

PPS: Knowing that Gen is a Stephen King fan, was anyone else thinking of "The Mist" in how the area is misty, and they're fighting tentacled monsters?


..... why would you need to spoiler tag about content of an episode that already aired, in the thread about the said episode?

MontyAI 2013-06-02 12:51

What is that whalesquid at the end? Failed experiment?
Totally looks different from the rest of the whalesquids.

Endless Knackwurst 2013-06-02 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontyAI (Post 4705914)
What is that whalesquid at the end? Failed experiment?
Totally looks different from the rest of the whalesquids.

There's a scene at the end of the video where one of those whalesquids approaches a diver and has the caption "Elaine Matsumoto" appear next to it. The name of the guy whose face we see on the various ocean- and space-deployed whalesquids is Matsumoto, and we see his wife and daughter, so presumably one of them was changed into the humanoid whalesquid.

Which raises the question of whether the whalesquid of Gargantia's time are able to create the humanoid whalesquid on their own or... if people from the surface are being merged into whalesquid—and in that case, whether that's voluntary or not.

Well, that thoroughly answers the question posed by the freeze-frame bonus whalesquid butt shot from a couple of episodes ago.

Ledo/Chamber conflict looms. It was interesting that Chamber would defer to Ledo wanting to see the video, but went completely autonomous with regard to squishing Ika Musume (nod to the image thread here).

Next issue: We know that the Evolvers planned to go through the wormhole gate and then blow it up, but the Continental Union managed to get around that somehow (and became the Galactic Alliance). Obvious remaining question is whether the gate really did get blown up, because that part is left off of the end of the video.

Helius 2013-06-02 13:01

Spoiler for Revelations:

ookamigirl 2013-06-02 13:04

The underwater fight was interesting to watch.
Ledo was tearing them apart with ease.
Pinion's greed/personal vendetta was a dangerous one.
Don't think it's worth pissing off the whale squids..
The vast amount of new info left me speechless.
OMG the history behind everything was shocking and disturbing.
Awesome episode this time!

Revan21 2013-06-02 13:04

Episode 9

I have to admit I did not see this development coming.
Spoiler for Revelation:


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