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marvelB 2013-09-02 22:29

One Piece - Chapter 720 [manga]
 
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Once again, we can thank Redon from AP forums for this week's spoiler summary:


Quote:

- Cavendish keeps attacking Luffy.
- Chinjao thanks Luffy with a headbutt but destroys floor accidentally. Chinjao wants his grandchildren's generation to join Mugiwara crew.
- Bartolomeo became Luffy's super fan after he saw Luffy survive a lightning strike in Loguetown.
- Rebecca helps Luffy to escape from Cavendish and Chinjao.
- Burgess and Blackbeard talks to each other by Den Den Mushi. Burgess tells Blackbeard that he dones't trust Aokiji. And then Luffy passes. Luffy says he won't give Ace's power to Blackbeard.
- In the End. Rebecca tries to kill Luffy but fails. Rebecca wants to get more opportunities to eat Mera Mera no Mi because she wants to beat Doflamingo and protect Toy Soldier.

End of chapter.


Huh, so that "Barto is a Luffy fanboy" theory came true after all. And as expected, Don Chinjao is now friendly with our protagonist, as well! But the fact that he offered to let his grandkids join the Straw-Hats just opened a new can of worms as far as the "new nakama" theories are concerned..... :uhoh:


And speaking of potential new members, I guess we can count out Rebecca now since she tried to murder Luffy over the fruit. The scene with Blackbeard and Burgess' conversation about Aokiji sounds pretty interesting as well (I can see Gray getting into a frenzy over that info already :rolleyes:). Anyways, looking forward to the full chapter! :)

SOGESNAKE 2013-09-02 22:45

I wonder if we actually get to see Blackbeard here... :heh:

ellifeedn 2013-09-03 00:05

Chinjao can help break through to the factory.

danielevo 2013-09-03 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvelB (Post 4816805)
Welcome to the weekly manga discussion thread for One Piece.

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  • One Piece is licensed by Viz, please don't ask for or mention where to find or download the manga.
  • Please do not discuss scanlations, translation groups, etc., etc.
  • Raw requests and offers are not permitted anywhere on this forum.
  • Discuss your expectations of the chapter if it has not been published yet.
  • Posting a synopses or summary is fine (and welcome).
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  • Spoilers will not be policed in this thread, so if you haven't read the chapter yet, just stay out if you don't want to read spoilers.
Remember that the manga is licensed, do not post significant parts of the chapter. This includes images, scripts and direct translations of the manga. Summaries are OK, crops of pictures are OK (only if you need to illustrate your point) but this is it.



Once again, we can thank Redon from AP forums for this week's spoiler summary:






Huh, so that "Barto is a Luffy fanboy" theory came true after all. And as expected, Don Chinjao is now friendly with our protagonist, as well! But the fact that he offered to let his grandkids join the Straw-Hats just opened a new can of worms as far as the "new nakama" theories are concerned..... :uhoh:


And speaking of potential new members, I guess we can count out Rebecca now since she tried to murder Luffy over the fruit. The scene with Blackbeard and Burgess' conversation about Aokiji sounds pretty interesting as well (I can see Gray getting into a frenzy over that info already :rolleyes:). Anyways, looking forward to the full chapter! :)


who is Gray ?

marvelB 2013-09-03 02:02

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Originally Posted by danielevo (Post 4816944)
who is Gray ?


Oh, I'm just referring to grey_1960, a buddy of mine here who I have heated debates with now and then. But you really didn't need to pay any mind to that little comment of mine, heh. :p



Anyway, about the spoiler..... if Barto first witnessed Luffy at Loguetown, then I wonder if that means he's an East Blue pirate? Considering EB's reputation for churning out the weakest pirates, I think it would be really nice for a change if another monster emerged from there during the skip. :D

andy 2013-09-03 02:31

chapter looks like it be rather interesting

Whitemoon648 2013-09-03 03:18

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Originally Posted by marvelB (Post 4816966)


Anyway, about the spoiler..... if Barto first witnessed Luffy at Loguetown, then I wonder if that means he's an East Blue pirate? Considering EB's reputation for churning out the weakest pirates, I think it would be really nice for a change if another monster emerged from there during the skip. :D

He was there because Dragon was there. He was more than likely accompanying Dragon.

Why are we hearing about such a strong pirate all of a sudden?

Because if you remember dragon wanted to gather and talk with the officers ( pre time-skip/post marineford) . Now he has started to move and thus we have people/pirates like Bartolomeo out of blue ( possibly Cavendish is also a revolutionary).

Oda sensei might link and connect Sabo, Dragon, ... like this.

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Another theory,

Bartolomeo is actually working under Kaido and Kaido is Sabo. He saw luffy while accompanying kaido maybe.

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Lastly i want to say i think both Kaido (Sabo) and Dragon used to be allies ( after dragon having saved his ass). Eventually they broke up because of different philosophies on how to approach and fight against the WG ( Kaido/Sabo being the unreasonable one here).

JonSnow 2013-09-03 03:37

Lol. When i saw the spoiler, i started searching the Logue Town arc for someone that looked like Bartolomeo. I couldn't find one. Anyways...Luffy's most dangerous ability is starting to work on Dressrosa. He's turning enemies into allies :p

noktown 2013-09-03 03:56

Kaido's birthday : May 1st
Sabo's birthday : March 20th

Kaido is not Sabo.

Whitemoon648 2013-09-03 04:34

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Originally Posted by noktown (Post 4817066)
Kaido's birthday : May 1st
Sabo's birthday : March 20th

Kaido is not Sabo.

Well now would Oda sensei ( If Kaido was Sabo) set them to have the same birthday? It would become too obvious.

Kaido's birthday could represent the day he became Kaido ( or was reborn as a different person). that's just one example out of many on how one could argue about the discrepancy.

Plus if we go by databooks ( as you just did for the birthday), Sabo is dead. But we know he isn't.

P.S. Just a possible theory.

mrShady 2013-09-03 04:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitemoon648 (Post 4817109)
Well now would Oda sensei ( If Kaido was Sabo) set them to have the same birthday? It would become too obvious.

Kaido's birthday could represent the day he became Kaido ( or was reborn as a different person). that's just one example out of many on how one could argue about the discrepancy.

Plus if we go by databooks ( as you just did for the birthday), Sabo is dead. But we know he isn't.

Wait what?
If you can't agree to written facts there's no point discussing anything with you since everything is a go.
So might as well ask you when Whitebeard and Ace are going to show up?

Let's at least abide by some facts to keep the discussion sensible.

Chapter looks great, though I'm surprised about the extended focus on Luffy.

Whitemoon648 2013-09-03 05:32

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Originally Posted by mrShady (Post 4817134)
Wait what?
If you can't agree to written facts there's no point discussing anything with you since everything is a go.
So might as well ask you when Whitebeard and Ace are going to show up?

Let's at least abide by some facts to keep the discussion sensible.

Chapter looks great, though I'm surprised about the extended focus on Luffy.

Actually good with me :). I don't want to have a discussion with some one who calls other not sensible just because they have a different opinion/theory that you don't like anyways.

P.S. Databooks are not facts ( just Data/summary of what we know "thus far" and some trivial info).
P.S.S. Story/said facts can change with explanation in anime/manga world.

amatakamata 2013-09-03 07:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitemoon648 (Post 4817109)
Well now would Oda sensei ( If Kaido was Sabo) set them to have the same birthday? It would become too obvious.

Kaido's birthday could represent the day he became Kaido ( or was reborn as a different person). that's just one example out of many on how one could argue about the discrepancy.

Plus if we go by databooks ( as you just did for the birthday), Sabo is dead. But we know he isn't.

P.S. Just a possible theory.

Well, since Moria only met Hogback and started to build his zombie army around ten years ago just after Kaido defeated him, and since we know that Sabo is roughly the same age as Ace, that means if Kaido is Sabo, he massacred the entire Moria's crew when he's still around ten or twelve years old...

Shockingly 2013-09-03 07:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitemoon648 (Post 4817109)
Well now would Oda sensei ( If Kaido was Sabo) set them to have the same birthday? It would become too obvious.

Kaido's birthday could represent the day he became Kaido ( or was reborn as a different person). that's just one example out of many on how one could argue about the discrepancy.

Plus if we go by databooks ( as you just did for the birthday), Sabo is dead. But we know he isn't.

P.S. Just a possible theory.

You have a low common sense when it comes to this sort of thing.
You fail to contribute to the discussion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvelB (Post 4816805)
And speaking of potential new members, I guess we can count out Rebecca now since she tried to murder Luffy over the fruit.

Because she tried to kill him? I'll get back to that but first. It was clear that she wasn't potential the moment we found out her hearts true desire which was many chapters ago when she shouted out to the Toy Soldier. It's obvious that she's going to be an ally of sort in this arc. She's very emotional and a gentle person.
Once she finds out he's going to save her and get her goal completed without her needing the Flame Flame Fruit you can see where the plot leads.

It's easy to read those actions after all the information we currently have.

K. Shiruto 2013-09-03 07:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvelB (Post 4816805)
And speaking of potential new members, I guess we can count out Rebecca now since she tried to murder Luffy over the fruit.

I have yet to watch why she's doing this, but why would that count her out? She tried to kill Luffy, ok, how many people tried to kill him and are now on friendly terms? Hell, as far as I can recall, Franky once also tried to kill Luffy. This doesn't tell me anything other than Rebecca is a very brave girl.

imza 2013-09-03 09:30

Perhaps the most interesting fact we got here is Aokiji's link between blackbeard. Knowing him, I doubt he has turned pirate but what's more likely is his entrance into the revolutionary army. His sense of justice, similar to Garp, would fit better with the revolutionaries.

Trax 2013-09-03 10:14

Sounds like a weird move on Rebecca's part, considering that 1) she seemed to have taken a liking to Luffy 2) she should know from that last fight that she doesn't stand a chance. I agree that it doesn't automatically disqualify her as a potential new member, but it doesn't help.

K. Shiruto 2013-09-03 10:47

Problem is the spoiler doesn't go into details about the reason of this move. We shall just wait.

Rainbowman 2013-09-03 10:50

Chinjao wants his grandchildren's generation to join the mugiwara crew? How many grandchildren does he have? Also if Rebecca wants the devil fruit to destroy Doflamingo, she can have it.

mrShady 2013-09-03 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitemoon648 (Post 4817169)
Actually good with me :). I don't want to have a discussion with some one who calls other not sensible just because they have a different opinion/theory that you don't like anyways.

P.S. Databooks are not facts ( just Data/summary of what we know "thus far" and some trivial info).
P.S.S. Story/said facts can change with explanation in anime/manga world.

I don't mind you throwing around crack pot theories but when someone disproofs your theories with facts and you just throw them to the wind then there's no way for us to convince you of our arguments making a discussion impossible.

Also if you include 3 different types of maybes whatifs or could be's to make a theory possible then you're just throwing enough mud at the wall, for some of it to stick. Which is fine in a wild theories discussion thread but is out of place here.


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