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Kairin 2014-05-15 16:02

Mahouka [LN/M] - Character Speculation/Theories: Tatsuya
 
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guestuser 2014-05-15 19:49

i guess i take this one
i like tatsuya because he is one of the rarest kind of protagonist unlike most protagonist they are either weak or strong but tatsuya he is a true OP character in that they win in a interesting way but they differ between style so u may not like his style of winning and most main character will win in the end anyway so why bother to drag it out longer than it need to and true OP main dont have to or a need to develop their characters until the time is right like at the middle stage or the end stage because dont lump a OP character with a weak or strong character because they need to develop earlier to survive the next fight so they have a big difference and a true OP main character is suppose to dominate the beginning and the middle to protect their title as the strongest which they usually have one have but will have a much harder time until they lose and the gary sue thing to me is just a OP protagonist that is boring not about how powerful they are like i said they have a style of winning if u dont like that style than feel to call them that but i find tatsuya interesting so i just refer to him as a true OP main character also because it is hard to find a style similar to tatsuya i only know of like about one main i can think of that is super similar to him

IceHism 2014-05-15 20:07

I think the things with OP main characters is that they were never suppose to struggle through fights. Their problems resides somewhere else where brute force just can't solve no matter what

guestuser 2014-05-15 20:12

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Originally Posted by IceHism (Post 5121398)
I think the things with OP main characters is that they were never suppose to struggle through fights. Their problems resides somewhere else where brute force just can't solve no matter what

true i mean i dont get why people dont understand the difference between a strong and a overpower character i mean that is what OP suppose to stand for

millie10468 2014-05-15 22:17

Even if he was as OP as the definition of OP, I don't see how that detracts from the story in any problematic way. Some say there's no tension in his fights since it's pretty clear he'll win. To that I reply that even assuming the author hasn't planned to introduce characters on the same level as Tatsuya, his ability to defeat whoever comes after him is not enough to keep him from dangling on the ropes of other more influential characters. In fact, it makes it much worse for him since it creates a lot more problems for him than it solves.

IceHism 2014-05-15 22:24

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Originally Posted by millie10468 (Post 5121532)
Even if he was as OP as the definition of OP, I don't see how that detracts from the story in any problematic way. Some say there's no tension in his fights since it's pretty clear he'll win. To that I reply that even assuming the author hasn't planned to introduce characters on the same level as Tatsuya, his ability to defeat whoever comes after him is not enough to keep him from dangling on the ropes of other more influential characters. In fact, it makes it much worse for him since it creates a lot more problems for him than it solves.

Putting an OP main character would detract from the story if the show is mainly about action sequences I think.
And I don't think Mahouka is about the fighting scenes really

millie10468 2014-05-15 22:33

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Originally Posted by IceHism (Post 5121541)
Putting an OP main character would detract from the story if the show is mainly about action sequences I think.
And I don't think Mahouka is about the fighting scenes really

This is what I feel a lot of people aren't willing to see. For a while now, I've been thinking that this story is more of a SoL/school life series with a dash of side action considering there's a war going on after all. Thinking it's a full-on action series will definitely cause some disappointment.

IceHism 2014-05-15 23:44

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Originally Posted by millie10468 (Post 5121551)
This is what I feel a lot of people aren't willing to see. For a while now, I've been thinking that this story is more of a SoL/school life series with a dash of side action considering there's a war going on after all. Thinking it's a full-on action series will definitely cause some disappointment.

I thought it was more politics, school, drama
Slice of life is a bit of a stretch for me.

Echizen777 2014-05-16 12:26

Tatsuya's powers don't make him invincible...

rladls2121 2014-05-17 23:21

Tatsuya's intellegence and athlete makes him invincible, at least I think.

It is something I want to learn from, he is so smooth of almost anything.
So calm and dont get over to his head.

Just what is with his eyes? his perceiving eyes?
It is kind of weird though, him saying to a person who wears glasses have a really good eyes. Even though that person is wearing glasses. Half joking.

SoboSobo 2014-05-18 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by millie10468 (Post 5121551)
This is what I feel a lot of people aren't willing to see. For a while now, I've been thinking that this story is more of a SoL/school life series with a dash of side action considering there's a war going on after all. Thinking it's a full-on action series will definitely cause some disappointment.

it depends what you consider action? its not pure slice and dice action story, there's plenty of action in it especially after the first arc but the main character is not the "kill them all" type guy, that's why he seeks to resolve problems through other means and combat is a last resort and thats why its not a pure action series.

guestuser 2014-05-18 08:01

i kind of get the feeling tatsuya should be call the ultimate spear because he only have offensive ability with practically no defensive ability but if u consider it like this wouldnt that means he is miyuki weapon that people borrow

Ultragunner 2014-05-18 08:57

have you forgotten the mighty Regrowth? I think that's the one beyond "cheating", more than any of his also broken abilities :heh:

guestuser 2014-05-18 09:40

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Originally Posted by Ultragunner (Post 5124043)
have you forgotten the mighty Regrowth? I think that's the one beyond "cheating", more than any of his also broken abilities :heh:

it does have its own limit that regrow slows down his processing speed and yea it is pretty broken but think about how many time he need to go to the hospital with out it

IceHism 2014-05-18 10:03

I'd say elemental sight, being the backbone to all of his powers, is the real OP technique here. It allows him to read eidos to use regrowth, see up to 1000m away, read activation sequences and magic sequences, see through physical obstacles, allow him to target to up to more than 1000m away as long as he can get the coordinates of the enemies (which he described was hard if they were farther or if they are not using magic as said in vol 6)

millie10468 2014-05-19 17:49

I'm rereading the novels and in one of the earlier volumes(3 to be exact), Miyuki says that one of Tatsuya's flaws is that " he was unable to comprehend goodwill directed towards him. More importantly, Tatsuya honestly questioned why people would think positively of him."
She goes on to blame that on the fact that his parents neglected to "pour" that emotion into him and even went as far as to "strip it from his mind."

Reading this when people are complaining about his lack of flaws drives home just how interesting Tatsuya as a character can be to people who look closely enough. Sure, some might say it's just an attempt by the author to try and make him less of a Gary Stu but I do believe the author has planned far enough that everything about Tatsuya was not merely written on a whim.

The above excerpt just made me realize that, for all people predict Tatsuya being able to end up with someone at the end of the series, it seems more and more unlikely to me the more I reread it. The guy doesn't know or remember what love is. How exactly is he supposed to love someone even if he does indeed magically regain his emotions? Basically, the author has given him a magical reason for having low self esteem and it's really interesting to see how his self image contradicts with how we the readers and even characters in the series see him. While it amazes me how someone as logical as Tatsuya cannot see his own self in a positive light, I shudder at what could happen if he ever sees just how awesome he is himself. He's probably not be extremely arrogant, but he'd be a lot more risky, wouldn't he?

Rava 2014-05-19 18:07

Yeah, he definitely still has a low opinion of some of his abilities. Even in 13, according to the myriad spoilers, he doesn't think people won because of his Engineering skills but that he happened to be the Engineer for the people who won.

peinmaximus@ 2014-05-19 18:28

Guys,any friends of Tatsuya already know that he is one of the most powerful wizards of the world(that he is an strategic class wizard) until the last volume of the LN that is out?
And in the story already appeared someone who is stronger than Tatsuya?

Marcus H. 2014-05-19 21:57

Quote:

I'm rereading the novels and in one of the earlier volumes(3 to be exact), Miyuki says that one of Tatsuya's flaws is that " he was unable to comprehend goodwill directed towards him. More importantly, Tatsuya honestly questioned why people would think positively of him."
We need a weakness that it actually debilitating in combat.

millie10468 2014-05-19 21:59

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Originally Posted by Marcus H. (Post 5125687)
We need a weakness that it actually debilitating in combat.

Why would that make him a better character?


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