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Akito 2006-06-01 16:17

I'm not sure if this had already been asked, but here it goes:

What type is Suzumiya Haruhi? (personality or character 'staple')


Tsundere???

C.A. 2006-06-01 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akito
I'm not sure if this had already been asked, but here it goes:

What type is Suzumiya Haruhi? (personality or character 'staple')


Tsundere???

Yep, definitely tsundere. Pretty obvious I think.

Vexx 2006-06-01 16:37

Warp factor Tsundere.... but her own unique twists (as all good characters should have some twist out of the archetype or they'd be boring).

Akito 2006-06-01 16:40

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Originally Posted by Vexx
Warp factor Tsundere.... but her own unique twists (as all good characters should have some twist out of the archetype or they'd be boring).

Well I see that Haruhi is so unique that is making the anime so popular.
different from like Shana that is explicitly tsundere.

the kind of tsundere of Haruhi is sometimes not so annoying as Shana´s.

Haruhii suki!!!!!!

C.A. 2006-06-01 16:46

Well in this story, the archetypes are taken to extremes. Like I've never seen any other character that glows with moeness as much as Mikuru or a character that matches Yuki's level of quietness.

Haruhi's tsundere level is taken to such extremes that she totally hates humans in the first place but actually falls in love with one really annoying human lol.

edit: One other extreme archetype would be Tsuruya lol, shes probably the most hyper genki girl ever.

iamandragon 2006-06-02 21:43

Why is everyone comparing Shana with Haruhi? True the art illustrator is the same person, but the authors are different!

Vexx 2006-06-02 23:46

I'm not sure why the authors being the same or different is relative here.... the discussion is over character archetypes. Can Haruhi be considered a derivative of the "tsundere" archetype? She has many elements of the "violent but cute and secretly cuddly" type but she has her own features that may be unique.

Sushi-Y 2006-06-03 00:09

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Originally Posted by Vexx
I'm not sure why the authors being the same or different is relative here.... the discussion is over character archetypes. Can Haruhi be considered a derivative of the "tsundere" archetype? She has many elements of the "violent but cute and secretly cuddly" type but she has her own features that may be unique.

Haruhi is a tsundere, she's just a rare case because her dere% is far lower than the usual tsundere character.

Average tsunderes have a good balance of tsun and dere (70/30, 50/50, 40/60, etc.), Haruhi, on the other hand, is more like 90% tsun / 10% dere. As a result, some people might not recognize her dere as dere. But even though her dere is rare, as long as it's there, Haruhi counts as a tsundere.

(In fact, some people probably like Haruhi because she has the 90/10 mix. It makes her dere all the more significant and, er, valuable?)

Vexx 2006-06-03 00:15

(obligatory applause for the absolutely terrible rhyming) :) ;)

eVaX 2006-06-03 02:11

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Originally Posted by Sushi-Y
In fact, some people probably like Haruhi because she has the 90/10 mix. It makes her dere all the more significant and, er, valuable?)

I generally agree with the tsun>dere statement for that reason.

Guess thats why I dislike Belldandy, among other reasons, since she's like a 100% dere with her constant diabetic-inducing sweetness.

But I didn't really like Naru's "I'll roundhouse kick you in the face every single time you look at me" from LH either, even though she had a very high tsun %. Haruhi has that insane/naive tsun persona that's irresistable.

Guess in the end, it is how likeable the character is in overall and not the tsundere combination.

Question: So is there actually a sequel to Mikurun-run in the novel? Or did Haruhi just make a huge fat lie?

iamandragon 2006-06-03 05:36

Haruhi is only dere because of the anime...blame the anime and read the novel...

Anyways when I watch the anime again(which is the 8th time now...played in 'shuffle' mode on my windows media player), Haruhi's doesn't seem tsun to me...she's just very self-centered...

Vallen Chaos Valiant 2006-06-03 07:23

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Originally Posted by eVaX
Question: So is there actually a sequel to Mikurun-run in the novel? Or did Haruhi just make a huge fat lie?

Haruhi is not inclinded to lying... She can lie, but I don't see why she would want to in this case.

After all, Harhi enjoyed making the first movie, and has no reason to not make another. Sure, it causes major issues (lots of closed-space problems... You may or may not see an explanation in future episodes, but it's related to the anomalies in episode 00, like the talking cat or the Mikuru beam.) for Kyon and the gang, but Haruhi doesn't know that.

M.D. Geist 2006-06-03 15:19

Can anybody tell me how haruhi is broadcasted ?!

Is it HD like 720i / p or just normal pal resolution (or even lower)?

Some say these 1280x720 (@120fps) are just upscaled, however they do look better than afks 640x360 ...

Or does it use a resolution like 8xx * 6xx ? *confused*

Sushi-Y 2006-06-03 15:29

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Originally Posted by eVaX
Question: So is there actually a sequel to Mikurun-run in the novel? Or did Haruhi just make a huge fat lie?

As of now (volume 8, March in the novel), no, not yet. But knowing Tanigawa Nagaru, he usually follows up on his forshadowings/underplots. Maybe we'll see a new "Asahina Mikuru no Bouken" when the new school year starts.

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Originally Posted by iamandragon
Haruhi is only dere because of the anime...blame the anime and read the novel...

Haruhi's dere is more subtle in the novel, but it's there (hence my comment "some people might not recognize her dere as dere").

- The ponytail is a good example.
- Shoushitsu's (vol.4) ending scene at the hospital was another.
- Near the end of Inbou (vol.7), Haruhi gave her hand-made chocolate (cake), which took her all night to make, to Kyon on Valentine day while making a bunch of excuses about it.
- Even the last scene in "Editor In Chief ★ Straight Ahead!" (vol.8), where Haruhi showed an unnatural level of interest for Kyon's "former girlfriend" (she pushed him to the ground and rode on top of him :heh: ) are all signs of Haruhi's dere.

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Originally Posted by iamandragon
Anyways when I watch the anime again(which is the 8th time now...played in 'shuffle' mode on my windows media player), Haruhi's doesn't seem tsun to me...she's just very self-centered...

A character is tsundere when she (or he) takes on a very harsh and unkind attitude (tsuntsun) towards the main character at first, but over time, begins to show signs of affection and care (deredere) for the main character. There are various tsundere types. Before she cut her hair, Haruhi was a Loner tsundere type. After the SOS-dan was created, Haruhi became an Arrogant/High Pride tsundere.

(Since it sounds like you can read Japanese) Refer to the Japanese wiki entry on tsundere for more info. Notice how Haruhi is listed on the tsundere list as well.

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Originally Posted by M.D. Geist
Can anybody tell me how haruhi is broadcasted ?!

Is it HD like 720i / p or just normal pal resolution (or even lower)?

Some say these 1280x720 (@120fps) are just upscaled, however they do look better than afks 640x360 ...

Or does it use a resolution like 8xx * 6xx ? *confused*

Here's a post from a while ago where I noted the difference between the hi-res and the normal version:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=434

The hi-res version isn't HD (it if was, the file size would've been ridiculous). I heard Chiba TV is offering HD contents for their programs, but I don't think that applies to this either.

The important thing is that the hi-res versions do look far better than the regular 704x396 versions, that's all that matters to me.

Mecha_Trueno 2006-06-03 17:44

hey btw, what does the M stand for on their uniform? is it the name of their school or something?... hmm... what is the name of their school anyway

Sushi-Y 2006-06-03 18:26

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Originally Posted by RiXeD
*twitch* O_o

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5595/p1557ez.th.jpg
:heh:

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Originally Posted by arias
Sush, we really need you to give us, or at least me, a concise summary of Volume 8.. I can't wait forever for the chinese version.............. T__T

Wouldn't it be more fun to find out for yourself? :heh:

Anyway, I can provide a short summary, in case people want to know what it's about. I'm going to avoid significant spoilers though, so it won't be a "complete" summary.

Volume 8 (涼宮ハルヒの憤慨, Suzumiya Haruhi no Fungai) is made up of two medium-sized stories,
"Editor In Chief ★ Straight Ahead!" (編集長★一直線!) and "Wandering Shadow" (ワンダリング・シャドウ).

Spoiler for Editor In Chief ★ Straight Ahead!:



Spoiler for Wandering Shadow:

Furudanuki 2006-06-04 21:19

Question for those who have read the chapter of the novel dealing with the events that take place in episode 10 of the anime.
Spoiler:

C.A. 2006-06-04 21:26

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Originally Posted by Furudanuki
Question for those who have read the chapter of the novel dealing with the events that take place in episode 10 of the anime.
Spoiler:

I'm not very sure and may not be correct but:

Spoiler:

iamandragon 2006-06-04 22:44

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Originally Posted by Sushi-Y
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5595/p1557ez.th.jpg
:heh:


Wouldn't it be more fun to find out for yourself? :heh:

Anyway, I can provide a short summary, in case people want to know what it's about. I'm going to avoid significant spoilers though, so it won't be a "complete" summary.

Volume 8 (涼宮ハルヒの憤慨, Suzumiya Haruhi no Fungai) is made up of two medium-sized stories,
"Editor In Chief ★ Straight Ahead!" (編集長★一直線!) and "Wandering Shadow" (ワンダリング・シャドウ).

Spoiler for Editor In Chief ★ Straight Ahead!:

That sounds almost right...I'm still stuck at Editor In Chief though, so I havn't read Wandering Shadow.

stormy001_M1A2 2006-06-05 01:11

Why Haruhi wants horseride Kyon like that? Is she really that jealous?

Prodigious 2006-06-05 19:52

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Originally Posted by Sushi-Y
Here's a post from a while ago where I noted the difference between the hi-res and the normal version:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=434

The hi-res version isn't HD (it if was, the file size would've been ridiculous). I heard Chiba TV is offering HD contents for their programs, but I don't think that applies to this either.

The important thing is that the hi-res versions do look far better than the regular 704x396 versions, that's all that matters to me.

File size of rips have nothing to do with whether it was originally broadcast in HD or not. Obviously it's compressed by the guys who release these rips. H.264 and Divx 5 can easily compress 25 minutes of 720p video to 400 or even 300 megs. It's not a pristine master quality result, but it does the job. Being in 1280x720 resolution makes a video file high definition, period. The question is whether this is merely created through software scaling by the guys who rip the episodes and put out the torrents(call it cheating if you will), or if it is broadcast natively in HD in Japan.

The fact that there is noticable increase in detail(not just sharpness) in the HD releases leads me to believe that this show was produced and broadcast in HD. If it is just upsampling, kudos to the guys who do it, because it's some of the best results I've seen in upscaled series.

velocity7 2006-06-06 00:00

From what I can tell visually so to speak, all the 1280x720 versions of the Haruhi episodes look like they were simply upscaled, and don't really show any more detail than what's shown in the initial 704x396 versions. .hack//Roots and Ergo Proxy are good examples of the HD resolution actually being taken advantage of.

rainz 2006-06-06 06:35

I also couldn't really see any extra details from the 1280x720 versions apart from the increased sharpness. They sure do look good though.

If there's upscaling involved, I guess the question is where that process took place. If it's done by either Kyoto Animation or by the TV channel, at the source, so to speak, then it's understandable that the quality is this high. If it's really done by the guys who ripped the episode, then kudos to them indeed. I wasn't able to get near their level of quality through some uprezzing effort of my own, but of course this is probably also because I'm dealing with compressed files.

NeoSam 2006-06-15 07:10

The second volume of the manga will be out soon (26/6/2006).

I added its cover to the post with all the light novel and manga covers, which is on the first page of this thread.

Biswa 2006-06-15 18:56

Quick question that i don't know how to search for because i am either lazy or stupid. Enlighten me -- is the story, as far the the novels go, completed? Or are they still releasing novels, thus no definite end to the series yet?

Onizuka-GTO 2006-06-15 19:13

Currently volume 8 was just release, and from people who have read it, it's not the last one either.

:p

Biswa 2006-06-15 19:17

Yikes! That'll translate to a lot of episodes, and considering how crazy good the animation for this show is, i doubt they'll make a lot of seaons of this stuff, right? :( ohh man, from what i've seen i really like the show but... oh well! Thanks, GTO.

Aiya Kasai 2006-06-18 19:49

Eh...does anyone know?
 
Does anyone know what the main site is for Suzumiya Haruhi? Sorry if this has already been asked...but my sister can't remember the site name

Catgirls 2006-06-18 20:56

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Originally Posted by Aiya Kasai
Does anyone know what the main site is for Suzumiya Haruhi? Sorry if this has already been asked...but my sister can't remember the site name

The official site is here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...sc/outlink.gif http://www.haruhi.tv/

Kyoto Animation's site is here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...sc/outlink.gif http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/haruhi/

Both of those are Japanese.

RiXeD 2006-06-20 18:48

So, can someone spoil me to death by telling me
Spoiler:

panzerfan 2006-06-20 18:58

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Originally Posted by RiXeD
So, can someone spoil me to death by telling me
Spoiler:


Spoiler:

RiXeD 2006-06-20 19:28

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Originally Posted by panzerfan
Spoiler:


Nah, I know that much myself. I just want to know more. And spoiling won`t affect me cos most likely I will never read all novels lol.

CrowKenobi 2006-06-20 22:18

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Originally Posted by RiXeD
Nah, I know that much myself. I just want to know more. And spoiling won`t affect me cos most likely I will never read all novels lol.

Kinny Riddle spoils it all here (up to volume 6): http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...49&postcount=4

Be prepared to be wowed! :D

Aiya Kasai 2006-06-21 01:27

I am going to ask a very good question that I have been wondering!!!! Is there any other girls here except for me and my sis. I mean I see all these guys thinking Haruhi in a maid's outfit is hot...but where are the fangirls? I mean for Kyon(cough)...never hear anything about him (cough sarcasim for that comment cough).

*looks around* anyone...? anyone..?

diopter 2006-06-21 02:11

edited: Got my answer albeit unexpectedly :).

RiXeD 2006-06-21 04:56

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Originally Posted by CrowKenobi
Kinny Riddle spoils it all here (up to volume 6): http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...49&postcount=4

Be prepared to be wowed! :D


Arghhhh! Confusing! I had to read it like 3 times before I finally understood (well, english is not my national language so it may be my crappy language skills`fault lol xD)

Vexx 2006-06-21 12:09

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Originally Posted by Aiya Kasai
I am going to ask a very good question that I have been wondering!!!! Is there any other girls here except for me and my sis. I mean I see all these guys thinking Haruhi in a maid's outfit is hot...but where are the fangirls? I mean for Kyon(cough)...never hear anything about him (cough sarcasim for that comment cough).

*looks around* anyone...? anyone..?

I'm pretty sure we have a handful of femme regular posters but I can't list them off the top of my head. Meh.... just carry on about Kyon and Itsuki. They are a rare breed in anime: guys that real girls might be attracted to.

ApathyEcstasy 2006-06-22 00:03

how many novels are released?

how many novels are there planned in total?

does the series only span the first novel?

for those that have read the novels or at least some of them, do kyon and suzumiya develop a relationship farther down the road?

LCeh 2006-06-22 00:26

There are 8 novels released.

I don't think there is a set number of novels planned yet.

The series kind of goes all over the place, but it's mainly concentrated in the first novel (Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu), where 6 episodes are made from it. Other episodes are sort of randomly taken from other novels.

And for your last question, do you mean a romantic relationship?

ApathyEcstasy 2006-06-22 00:34

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Originally Posted by LCeh
There are 8 novels released.

I don't think there is a set number of novels planned yet.

The series kind of goes all over the place, but it's mainly concentrated in the first novel (Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu), where 6 episodes are made from it. Other episodes are sort of randomly taken from other novels.

And for your last question, do you mean a romantic relationship?

yeah i mean a romantic relationship

also..another question...how many years does the 8 novels span...in the time in the anime


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