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mt888 2006-07-18 13:08

is kalinin a traitor?
 
do u think kalinin was a spy for amalgam because he met with leonard. also in burning one man force it said he looked a bit hesitant with his orders. it didn't explain why and he suddenly disappeard without an answer for us.

Masanori Ota 2006-07-18 18:43

I was thinking the same thing, but was hesitant to mention it. Probably get flamed by the fangirls...

But since all arrows point to Kalinin, it can't be him. It's never the obvious guy. Kalinin's probably fooling Mithril to gain Amalgam's respect, but still giving intel to someone higher ranking than Tessa.

TenshiHime 2006-07-18 21:59

gosh! i hope he's not! i really like him, and he seems like a father figure to sousuke, so he better not be! :upset: anyway, it seems too obvious, so ya, i agree that hes probably acting on orders from mithril to kind of infiltrate almagen and get as much info as he can.

mt888 2006-07-19 02:06

yes but i should remind u that mithril is no more and im sure amalgam would know if he was a spy for mithril (tehy know everything)/

Cooldude 2006-07-19 03:10

Spoiler tag, there should be one, and the thread title's just too spoilistic as well

Don't think he's so far as being a traitor, but he certainly knows a lot more about Amalgam and certainly Leonardo than most

Anyone who's read ADVMC at the end where he was having a beer with Leonardo in Sydney, talking about catching "Mr Zinc" (The Secretary guy Mr Jackson whom Tessa had an association with at the Headquarters), don't think Kalinin would be a traitor if he's getting rid of Amalgam spies within Mithril. There's obviously more to Leonardo than meets the eye

HanB 2006-07-19 12:07

sry pls see next reply

HanB 2006-07-19 12:12

I'm new here. I think Mithril has some spy (maybe someone in commander and I think may be he's Mr.Gold in Amalgum). And Kalinin knows some clue, he wants to find out who is a spy. Therefore he pretends to betray Mithril to make Amalgum trust him.

It's my imagination.

Thk.

masterwok 2006-07-19 12:27

where did u guys see that kalinin was with leonard. anyways kalinin would never betray mithril, since he's been with them along time, espeically sousuke.

Masanori Ota 2006-07-19 14:33

In a book.

And his name is Leonard, not Leonardo, but you can call him Leotard if you want. He deserves it.

And Mithril is not completely down-and-out, it's just crippled.

masterwok 2006-07-19 19:01

nice on the the name calling masanori ota with the leotard, but i know him from TSR. i believe you that mithril is just crippled, and i bet they will beat amalgam with sousuke on their side and the guy that beat an armslave without using a lambda drive when his opponent has one.

Wandy 2006-07-19 20:26

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Originally Posted by masterwok
the guy that beat an armslave without using a lambda drive when his opponent has one.


wouldn't count on him if there is a lamba drive user like Gaulun :o

mt888 2006-07-22 13:16

mithril is out for good, the people that survived the attack r at hide or on the run.
but there r a few people with some power of there own that will probably help sousuke (and of coursee th lovely tessa). but this is a topic for a different disscusion this is for 'is kalinin a traitor?'

Masanori Ota 2006-07-22 13:31

I wouldn't be so sure about that. ;)

Generalgm 2006-07-22 16:27

mithril is down but not out. In chapter 4 (the newly released chapter !! i think !! ) from what I heard its a plan to regroup the members of mithril for a counterattack or something. I could be wrong due to the language barrier. Also I found a page in which there are monthly pictures of whats in the next novel. Though they kinda stopped on jan 2006 it does show alot of novel picture goodness. The mag is called Fantasy Dragon Magazine or "Doramaga" or "Gekkan Dragon Magazine".
Take a gander
http://fmp.abstratica.org/gallery-novelsm.html
http://fmp.abstratica.org/gallery-dm.html
and the main pic page
http://fmp.abstratica.org/gallery.html

gencbiba 2006-07-22 17:11

Hmm... Maybe Chinatown has some anime shops where I could find some FMP novels. Does anyone have a site that shows all novels in a chronological order and their summaries? Or, if you know them by heart, could someone just recite them to me... It would be greatly appreciated.

Generalgm 2006-07-22 18:52

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Originally Posted by gencbiba
Hmm... Maybe Chinatown has some anime shops where I could find some FMP novels. Does anyone have a site that shows all novels in a chronological order and their summaries? Or, if you know them by heart, could someone just recite them to me... It would be greatly appreciated.

Look full metal panic up on wikipedia. It should have a media list and most of the names of the novels.
Your best bet is getting them on amazon.jp or from the site that produces them.
Refer to some of the threads on the forums, they should give you the names of the unlisted novels

Reil 2006-08-23 19:21

Back on topic, I personally think Kalanin probably did give information to Amalgam, but I highly doubt it was for purely selfish reasons.

Generalgm 2006-08-23 21:21

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Originally Posted by Reil
Back on topic, I personally think Kalanin probably did give information to Amalgam, but I highly doubt it was for purely selfish reasons.

One can only contemplate. I wonder if hes trying to "play" Amalgam. Maybe he will play a decisive factor in the story later? >: D

Kikaifan 2006-08-24 01:27

I dunno, we only ever know Sousuke and Tessa's regard for Kalinin; little is revealed about the man himself. He could just be a traitor.

Though in general I'm bothered by the lack of clear purpose in Amalgam. Are they just in it for the profit and only bother with the military arm to keep white-knight types like Mithril out of their business? Or do they have some higher aim relating to the whispered? I'd like to know...

Urgh, Kalinin in a Venom would be a one-man army if he has any skill with the lambda driver, even Closeaux respects his skill...

Killa_hurtz 2006-08-24 02:34

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Originally Posted by Kikaifan
I dunno, we only ever know Sousuke and Tessa's regard for Kalinin; little is revealed about the man himself. He could just be a traitor.

Though in general I'm bothered by the lack of clear purpose in Amalgam. Are they just in it for the profit and only bother with the military arm to keep white-knight types like Mithril out of their business? Or do they have some higher aim relating to the whispered? I'd like to know...

Urgh, Kalinin in a Venom would be a one-man army if he has any skill with the lambda driver, even Closeaux respects his skill...

Gauron tells Sousuke exactly what Amalgam's objective is in The Second Raid
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