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Mr. Johnny 5 2006-10-24 10:41

Is Naruto worthy of the rank -----?
 
Is Naruto the rank Chuunin worthy?

Shikamaru became a genin after his preformance in the main matches.
He lost..didnt use genjutsu or taijutsu at all. He never even hit his opponent.
Shikamaru tactically outsmarted Temari. And he possesed "the most important attribute" for a chuunin. (Leadership)

Yet, became a chuunin.

We know the battles of Naruto during the Chuunin exam and main matches.

[Lets talk about Kiba's battle and compare it to Shikamaru's battle.]

IF you ask me that was a battle worthy to call Naruto...a chuunin (if you would compare that to Shikamaru)

1: He captured Akamaru very smart, and was able to bite Kiba (he caught Kiba totally offguard) Excellent timing and use of Kage bunshin+Henge No Jutsu

2: Used Henge to confuse Kiba & Akamaru by transforming into their forms. Right after he got hit..he changed into Akamaru.
Then not only he made Kiba attack Akamaru but Naruto was also able to hit Kiba and catch him again...offguard.

3: Then his finishing move which he saw from Sasuke...with a bit improvisation he made a very decent move.

Now if you ask me... IF Naruto fought like that in the main matches...he'd have a great chance of becoming a Chuunin. (Naruto's Leadership may be a flaw but i think the rest of his ability's are enough)

What do you guys think?

tatami 2006-10-24 11:09

i think that naruto is an idiot =P

you got a point but it was not the finals so it doent affect who becomes chuunin.

Xelsol 2006-10-24 11:10

Naruto fails as a leader, he's just not smart enough. His only qualities are his stamina and will to win; qualities for a fighter only. If Naruto was a Chuunin, he'd get his squad into countless fights that should have been avoided.

Rurik 2006-10-24 11:15

Johnny, The question lack a little bit of coherence and I was not understanding it.

The question should had read something like (if it is what you are asking) “Is Naruto worthy to be Ranked as a Chuning?” or “were the Selection of Chunin in the Chunin arc were Fair?” or did Naruto deserved to be Promoted to Chunin?"

Given the explanation of what Chunin is about, NO, At that time (or current) Naruto was not worthy of been a Chunin, sure Naruto came up with good tactics (even Fighting with Neeji), but that was not it, it was about Maturity, is about that Naruto fought for Himself, for the win, Shikamaru fought calculating as a plattoon leader.

vietpimp 2006-10-24 11:44

No way, he is an idiot and can't lead.

I want another chuunin arc where he can use rasengan on konohamaru and his friends.

SuNK1LLeR 2006-10-24 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by vietpimp (Post 717602)
I want another chuunin arc where he can use rasengan on konohamaru and his friends.

that makes it two of us! :D

Mr. Johnny 5 2006-10-24 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rurik (Post 717559)
Johnny, The question lack a little bit of coherence and I was not understanding it.

The question should had read something like (if it is what you are asking) “Is Naruto worthy to be Ranked as a Chuning?” or “were the Selection of Chunin in the Chunin arc were Fair?” or did Naruto deserved to be Promoted to Chunin?"

Given the explanation of what Chunin is about, NO, At that time (or current) Naruto was not worthy of been a Chunin, sure Naruto came up with good tactics (even Fighting with Neeji), but that was not it, it was about Maturity, is about that Naruto fought for Himself, for the win, Shikamaru fought calculating as a plattoon leader.

Yes, sorry if i wasnt clear...but i ment the first: Is Naruto worthy to be Ranked as a Chuunin.

I myself voted Yes...and agree that his overall knowlegde is below that of an average Chuunin. If he would gain more knowlegde he'd be more carefull and would understand things easier.

tatami 2006-10-24 12:00

you say he doesnt have the qualities but yet you want him promoted as a chuunin?
r u high or something.

this is what i hate in this forum. people love a character so much they dont care if he or she is dumb dead or something else.just because they love the character they make everything worthy for him/her.

Dauthi 2006-10-24 12:18

I think definitely not. Shikamaru played with his opponent as if it were a game of chess. He considered possibilities, and found his best route to victory, as a leader should.

Everyone else however, specifically Naruto, just ran in and used brute force. They didn't plan ahead so much as improvise. They showed little or no leadership ability. Again, naruto more so than others. >.<

MobiuS 2006-10-24 12:30

Naruto = failure at life. He should have died instead of Haku.

Sabaku Kyu 2006-10-24 12:34

I'm still on the fence about this issue I definitely agree that pre-timeskip Naruto wasn't chuunin material, but..
Spoiler for the manga:

Dauthi 2006-10-24 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabaku Kyu (Post 717662)
I'm still on the fence about this issue I definitely agree that pre-timeskip Naruto wasn't chuunin material, but..
Spoiler for the manga:

Is this after timeskip we are talking? If so he is probably chuunin material, i would hope.

I think Naruto has the potential to be a leader, as you pointed out in his experience (pre-timeskip). He has a problem clearing his head, and using it however. Instead he charges in head first. This is a problem maturity can solve though, so i would assume after timeskip he can become a chuunin.

Sinaura 2006-10-24 12:51

I highly doubt there is a difference between Lee's attitude/brains and Narutos attitude/brains. Both always has something to prove, and yet Lee is a Chunnin, so why can't Naruto be? The way Lee fights I would suspect he is just as likely to be as headstrong as Naruto. So yes, Naruto should be a chunnin.

Sazelyt 2006-10-24 13:10

If we are talking about the post-time skip:
Spoiler for manga related:

If we talk about pre-time skip, the answer is "close, for me not yet, but in general it can go either way".

s-class uchiha 2006-10-24 13:15

C'mon if Ino and Chouji are chuunin worthy Naruto def. is.

I think he's smart enough (now) to lead some genin and watch out for their safety.

Last_Hope 2006-10-24 13:24

Hard to say. I mean, he´s stronger than your average Chuunin by now and despite him not being the smartest guy alive he has shown the be good at improvising if the situation needs it. And if he´s indeed going to become Hokage it´s time for Naruto´s intelligence and leadership skills to start going higher too. But so far he has not shown anything that makes me say he´s fit to be a leader just yet. Leading people in battle than fighting alone.


I´m hoping that Naruto getting promoted too Chuunin will be a breakthrough for him. That with responsibility he will get his act together and become more like a real leader.

Rurik 2006-10-24 13:24

Well the problem is that post time skip

Spoiler for Manga:

Medalist 2006-10-24 15:36

What kind of question is this...since it'd be up to the Producers and kishi himself if Naruto would be seen worth as chuunin.

Mr. Johnny 5 2006-10-24 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by tatami (Post 717617)
you say he doesnt have the qualities but yet you want him promoted as a chuunin?
r u high or something.

this is what i hate in this forum. people love a character so much they dont care if he or she is dumb dead or something else.just because they love the character they make everything worthy for him/her.

Why do you say that?

I only said that he probably fails in the area of leadership...but his overall combat skills are enough for me to consider him a Chuunin.

I think his knowlegde is also something what he lacks... but Combat Skills, his techniques: Rasengan, Summoning, Kage Bunshin, Henge and his timing of jutsu's, his strategy (Is sometimes briljant)

I think he does have the quality's but still needs some improvements...if he improves in those area's (overall knowlegde, leadership, using advanced strategy's all the time) i may consider him even close of becoming a jounin.

Spoiler for Manga after the timeskip:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Uchikatsu (Post 717853)
What kind of question is this...since it'd be up to the Producers and kishi himself if Naruto would be seen worth as chuunin.

This is a question and asking for other peoples opinion. I dont try to achieve anything...just like to hear some opinions...

Soultis Rayn 2006-10-24 17:22

He's only perfect Chuunin material in determination and the fact that he has a big advantage with the Kyuubi, but other than that...he sucks.


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