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^_Usagi_^ 2006-10-27 16:42

What's up with Isshin Kurosaki?
 
I’m sorry if something like this already exists, but checking through all the threads is crazy. + I'm horrible at setting spoilers so I just put em on almost everything. (please correct me if I'm wrong on anything below)

Isshin Kurosaki is a huge confusion to me. Who is he “really”?

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WHAT DO YOU THINK?

(my) WEIRD THEORY (that I don’t really believe in, but still give it slight chance)
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Killa_hurtz 2006-10-27 16:49

Well for one...it's never said that Kurosaki was Isshin's surname

It is quite common in Japan for men to marry INTO the woman's family, thus taking her last name, instead of the other way around.

Kurosaki could be Ichigo's mother's last name...not Isshin's

hdx514 2006-10-28 00:52

when in doubt check the bios

height: isshin 186 cm, kaien 183 cm
weight: isshin 80 kg, kaien 68 kg
dob: isshin 10th dec., kaien 27th oct.

the answer is NO

SilverChakra 2006-10-28 02:34

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

(my) WEIRD THEORY (that I don’t really believe in, but still give it slight chance)
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Wow I've never thought about that, but it really makes sense!! Now I am even more keen on knowing who Isshin really is!!

^_Usagi_^ 2006-10-28 03:05

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Wow I've never thought about that, but it really makes sense!!
that was sarcasm, right? o.O


I know the idea has a lot of loop holes, that's it's just an idea. But I guess I'll just have to wait & see if it proves itself.

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shouldn't you at least try to give an explanation, how this could be possible?
I can't because so far Urahara surely had a lot of trick up his sleeve. speculating could go on forever.

KiNA 2006-10-28 03:26

buu for failing to put manga tag ... baka!

astrallionheart 2006-10-28 04:00

Lol...the fall of the Shiba clan came as a result of Ichigo's dad. No wonder Kukaku beats him up like he's part of the family!

Riku540 2006-10-28 04:51

Correct me if I'm wrong but...
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^_Usagi_^ 2006-10-28 09:13

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Originally Posted by Riku540 (Post 721919)
Correct me if I'm wrong but...
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where else can he be from if not from SS?? o.O
he might be have been using a gigai all that time on earth (like urahara) for all we know

LoOnatick 2006-10-28 11:19

Well, I'm just guessin'....since I just saw the 2 pictures of Kaien and Isshin. Could Isshin be the father of Kaien? I mean, during the SS Arc, we met Kukaku who is the sister of Kaien. So far there is no information of the leader of the Shiba clan, the father of Kaien, Kukaku and Ganju (or former leader, since Kukaku seems like the current leader). Well, just guessin' XD.

Zu Ra 2006-10-28 13:11

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ISSHIN=KAIEN

NO =)

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To begin with there is absolutely no connection between Kaien and Ichigo in terms of Isshin . BLEACH UNIVERSE BELEIVES IN REINCARNATION . When a Konpakku dies its rein carnated and goes back to living world .

Also just google Nirvana if you have any doubts regarding Nirvana and min 7 reincarnation prinicples, and Shinto has lot of common practise with budhism . WE can only speculate Ichi is re-incarnation of Kaien . And thats what Kubo leads us to beleive . Dont get Isshin mixed up here .

Who is Isshin ?

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ichigoismyhomie 2006-10-28 13:27

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Originally Posted by ^_Usagi_^ (Post 722046)
where else can he be from if not from SS?? o.O
he might be have been using a gigai all that time on earth (like urahara) for all we know

if isshin was using his gigai this whole time, how can he make sweet love with ichigo's mom and have 3 kids?

This brought up another question from me. How come isshin is close friend with ishida's dad, the quincy dude. Isshin knows too many powerful people. That's mean he been around for a long long time. Here's my take on ichigo's family:
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Zu Ra 2006-10-28 13:37

Good theory ano ne .. spoiler tags =)

^_Usagi_^ 2006-10-28 13:41

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Zu Ra 2006-10-28 13:54

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if isshin was using his gigai this whole time, how can he make sweet love with ichigo's mom and have 3 kids?
It would be better if kubo could go more in details about all Gigai functions . Too bad he left Gigai and sweet love out -__- . Birds n Bees

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Rowan 2006-10-28 16:30

I retain the hypothesis that Ichigo is Kaien's reincarnation, the hollow within him coming from dying while fused with Aizen's monster, NOT gaining them due his Shattered Shaft experience. Maybe it was strengthened due to that, but we saw examples of Ichigo having unusual spirit power and abilities well before he lost and regained his powers.

As far as Isshin goes, he can't be Kaien because of the way Kaien died: pierced through the heart, I thought it was. I'd say it's pretty clear he was a captain, but I'd also wager "Isshin" isn't even the first/given name he went by in Soul Society.

R.

P.S. REIATSU. I've never seen a translation outside this forum that uses an "L" instead of "R" and don't bother telling me it's interchangeable. Official translation by way of Viz is "Reiatsu."

^_Usagi_^ 2006-10-28 17:31

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Reiatsu.
They (japanese) dont really have L. Rather L=R. So it's up to you how you read it.

Zu Ra 2006-10-28 17:39

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Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 722474)
P.S. REIATSU. I've never seen a translation outside this forum that uses an "L" instead of "R" and don't bother telling me it's interchangeable. Official translation by way of Viz is "Reiatsu."

If you do wath Bleach SUBBED Here Renji say L e a t s u also the highpoint of the post was using Viz as a refferal seriously :heh: . Now outside this forum you wont even here Allegato oO

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.. I have nothing to say leaving All Hail SoulCutter

ichigoismyhomie 2006-10-28 18:48

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Originally Posted by ^_Usagi_^ (Post 722320)
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so that's mean uruhara can make a gigai that is able to perform reproductive task of human?
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Originally Posted by Geta Boshi (Post 722331)
It would be better if kubo could go more in details about all Gigai functions . Too bad he left Gigai and sweet love out -__- . Birds n Bees


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Where can i find this info?

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I agreed. I think we all need kubo to verify the ability of gigai

I like this last info. It give a whole new possibilites for bleach. I think it's possible that isshin could be the descendant of SS king (or even former king). In that case, it would be fine if yamamoto and all the other captains (new and old) don't know who isshin really is.

If isshin was a descendant/former SS king, that would explain how ichigo have endless supply of power. But, I come up with more questions. How bout those vaizards people get their power? They were once a shinigami, and judging by their skills, their not a low level shinigami. Could they know who isshin real background?

If Isshin been around for that long, could it be possible for him to know the technique of the vaizards? I mean, he's friend with the evil-genius of SS (uruhara).

Gaaaaah:eyespin: My head hurts now thinking all these possibilties........i need a drink
there are so many gray area in this whole story.

^_Usagi_^ 2006-10-29 03:59

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