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xris 2007-02-11 00:16

Pumpkin Scissors Episode 19 Discussion / Poll
 
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Cyz 2007-02-11 17:24

Screenshots of episode 19 courtesy of Random Curiosity. LOOK AT IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!.
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FlareKnight 2007-02-14 21:28

Well not a bad episode. Schultz actually made himself look like a better guy in my view. He really was able to see how Alice felt better than a lot of people at that party. I wonder what that Leonir is up to exactly. I mean sure he's evil and maybe working with that Silver Wheel group but anything else is a guess.

Figures that someone is behind having the food being given to the poor right near a party going on for the rich. They knew that'd cause some problems, and adding in the information they got it's not going to be a fun party anymore.

I just can't figure out one thing. Oland can take on tanks, flamethrowers, etc but gets beaten by a shovel? Yeah that works....guess he'll wake up in time though to save alice if the preview means anything.

Guido 2007-02-14 21:52

A Sweet Trap
 
This was a beautiful episode, and the perfect setup to the start of the newest arc. However, I wonder with so few episodes left how the animation staff is going to handle the development to make for a decent conclusion.

The last things I know is that the manga currently has five volumes to now and with all the cram plethora of fillers that were sticked at the beginning of the show, I feel that lots of stuff for storytelling and plot development are going to be left out.

Regardless of that, this episode had a nice atmosphere that is juxtaposed with the turn of tides at the end, which we see it coming all along. Throw a ballroom party for nobles, which the location happens to be a few blocks away from the park where food is distributed to the people, bad idea.

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Definitely, Schultz displayed a dramatic growth on character that enabled him to understand Alice's feelings.
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I could have bestowed a 100 to this episode, but I cannot due that my only complain is that the ED song reverted to the first one. A shame because the new song by Stekkin was cute.:heh:

FlareKnight 2007-02-14 22:55

Completely forgot about Alice not being the heir of her family for much longer. Who knew she had a younger brother they were hiding from us. I also miss the ending song from the last episode, it was pretty funny and cute.

Wonder why they put so many fillers into the show if they were going to be left to scramble to find a way to get through the rest of the manga.

Good for Schultz though. Going out into the world and interacting with those that are suffering in that post-war period will be tough. But I think it'll be good for him and it's too bad that most nobles can't see things the way Alice and now Schultz do.

Mgz 2007-02-14 22:56

chibi Alice is cute as always ^^

and she were able to read that book(fill with text) in such a young age, i'm impressive, most kid in her age read comic usually and get bored with book fill with text, etc

Lord Leonir seems sneaky and he has evil eyes >.< , I would trust Lord Schultz a lot more since he is sincerely .

also "the masses" is very ungrateful :/ . Our section III is doing charity works and people put their anger on them :/ ... baka people :(

and poor Mel-kun :P, heads will roll when mel-kun is hungry :P

FlareKnight 2007-02-14 23:05

I suppose when people are hungry and upset they will blaim pretty much anyone. Probably not against Section III specifically but the army, and from what we've seen they have a right to be angry at the army...just not section III :).

Clear that Leonir is an enemy, but just what his goal and who he's working for/leading is the question. Schultz is a good guy, he's clear and easy to read.

And OMG Acorns! That horrible cook feeding people acorns. "That's what animals eat". Seriously I don't feel bad about these guys dealing with a riot. Hard to believe how removed these people are from what's going on just outside.

Trax 2007-02-15 05:41

This episode was pretty decent, and a good way to forget the horrors of the previous one. So I for one am grateful they left out the temporary ED.

Didn't like how those people suddenly got angry with Oreld, they should have just shut down the food supply.

The food complaint by the slob (and apparently other snobs agreed with him) was kinda silly... What's the problem with acorns, and what is usually used for those snacks instead then?

I also found it a bit odd that Orland got knocked out so easily, even if he wasn't in wisp mode.

How many episodes will PS run for anyway? If it's something like 26 it seems it might be too rushed at the end, which would be ridicilous if you consider the time wasted on filler episodes.

Deathkillz 2007-02-15 12:19

yea its been a while since we had a good ep like this ~ it was pretty deep with alice giving her theory on "why you dont ever give up" ~

i never knew she had such big assets :heh: (really the army uniform doesnt show that >.<)

i hope that snobby guy with the pizza hand dies and burn in hell T_T

funny bits ~
~ alice's sisters and Schultz about to knock that guy out :heh:
~ oreld giving his sweet talk to the cook XD

such a cliff hanger ep ~ im hoping alice gets to kick ass next week :)

Dop 2007-02-15 18:53

Ah! Character development!

Good to see that Schultz, who'd always come across as a bit pathetic in his earlier apperances, has Got It.
This episode he showed a much greater understanding of Alice's work than Leonir could ever do, and showed his true nobility.

Looking forward to next week, and hoping cheesy-fingered Paul gets what's coming to him!

Jewelray 2007-02-16 12:43

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Originally Posted by Trax (Post 833701)
I also found it a bit odd that Orland got knocked out so easily, even if he wasn't in wisp mode.

I thought the same thing. He's taken on tanks and had half his body burned off, but he can't handle a shovel to the head...

Goofus Maximus 2007-02-16 13:10

Yes, if the concussion from a tank shell being fired next to his head can't knock him out, how can a measly shovel whack do him in? Or are we going to be treated to some bait and switch tactics in the next episode?

Sinestra 2007-02-16 19:51

I must say Alice looked might fine in that dress she looked better than her sisters. Does anyone hear the drums of a rebellion starting? Schultz earned a couple of points in my book he really noticed Alices feelings and we can tell that he truly cares for her. In the end he came out looking better than Leonir who i am still convinced is a bad guy.

I did not expect that Alice would lose her right to be the head of the family, hell i didnt even know she had a brother. But this might be the best for her, her thinking is not at all geared towards nobility. With out a title should could pretty much do what she wants. Im not sure why Leonir is after Alice but im sure its not for honorable motives. In noble houses marrying is all about improving your position and station marrying alice wold get him nothing, so what gives?

Im not sure what i think about Olands reaction to Alice getting married. I dont know if its admiration or a genuine feeling of love or like for him. I mean how many woman do you think Ollands had contact with over the years? I didnt really understand what Orlend meant when he was talking to Machs about it but it sounds like it was gray area. Things will be reveled soon im sure the next episode will be fun to watch. I do have 3 things though.

1. I hope Mer-Kun gets a hold of Leonir's crotch

2. Who wants to bet at the end of the next episode Alices dress will be runined

3. Whats up with Oland going down like a bitch from shovel to the head. This man has taken on tanks. been shot, stabbed. poked prodded, burnt and been subjected to embarrassing moments involving his manhood at the hospital. But one little shovel hit and hes down on his back like a $1 whore.

Jewelray 2007-02-16 22:56

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Originally Posted by Sinestra (Post 835342)
2. Who wants to bet at the end of the next episode Alices dress will be runined

Oh dear. The fanservice possibilities are endless (well, actually they're fairly predictable. In these situations, dresses always seem to rip in the same places...) But Pumpkin Scissors is definitely cheap enough to cash in on the opportunity.

Anh_Minh 2007-02-17 03:55

Er... Even without her position as next head of the Malvin family, Alice is still a high ranking noble. She shouldn't lack for suitors, even if Leonir could arguably get better (in terms of rank).

As for what interests him... the simplest explanation is that he plans to marry her and have her inherit the head position anyway. Somehow. (By killing her father before the brother is officially made heir? By killing her brother? Both?)

Sinestra 2007-02-17 13:55

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh (Post 835791)
Er... Even without her position as next head of the Malvin family, Alice is still a high ranking noble. She shouldn't lack for suitors, even if Leonir could arguably get better (in terms of rank).

As for what interests him... the simplest explanation is that he plans to marry her and have her inherit the head position anyway. Somehow. (By killing her father before the brother is officially made heir? By killing her brother? Both?)

That scenario is very plausible. For all his good looks and charm its very obvious that hes very intelligent. I would not put killing off the Alices father and brother above him. He looks at Alice like she a possession or a wild horse that would be fun to break, I can not see this person have genuine feels for Alice

Anh_Minh 2007-02-17 14:18

Looks too simple to me, though. I said it was the simplest, but I don't really believe in it. I think anime needs something more convoluted, and/or involving handwavium of some sort.

Kalimari 2007-02-17 15:25

some image from Episode 20


Onizuka-GTO 2007-02-18 00:16

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Originally Posted by Jewelray (Post 834889)
I thought the same thing. He's taken on tanks and had half his body burned off, but he can't handle a shovel to the head...

*sigh*

Its the plot device, you just have to accept nothing consistent in this series, so its best to not think too hard about it, and just sit back and enjoy it.



:rolleyes:

sevenheaven7 2007-02-18 04:02

so does orland have a crush on alice?


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