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monir 2007-03-28 23:41

Code Geass Episode 23 Discussion / Poll
 
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Shinoto 2007-03-29 01:39

Woot!!!
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SpaceDrake 2007-03-29 03:21

This is probably going to end up being the ultra gigaton episode that changes things even more than 22. Waiting for subs is going to be like torture.

So who wants to bet that
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WhiteWings 2007-03-29 03:28

Not really a spoiler but just in case for those not seen episode 22 yet...

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SinsI 2007-03-29 03:34

I got completely different impression, the authors prefer to deal with everything as soon as possible and don't drag it at all, so I think the situation is going to be resolved in this episode.

m-san 2007-03-29 03:35

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Originally Posted by SpaceDrake (Post 880264)
So who wants to bet that
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Yeah, that'd be the most likely case.

Or more specifically:
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Whatever the case, it's least likely Euphie will live. Someone will just kill her in this ep for sure. Awww :( That is, unless she successfully kills all Japanese and, in effect, Geass wears off XD

Anyway, anyone notice that Euphie was the only victim of Geass to show some sort of retaliation before following the Geass command? Shirley doesn't count because the reason why she screamed "NO!" just before she was given a Geass command was because she probably discovered Lulu's powers from Mao and sort of predicted he'd use it on her to make her forget everything between them. Besides, she screamed before the command was given. Euphie, on the other hand, had her "NO... I CAN'T KILL THEM..." moment after the command was given.

Perhaps the Brittanian/Imperial family has some sort of immunity against Geass? I mean, when Lulu used Geass on himself, he quickly remembered what he was supposed to forget right after achieving his goal: to "defeat" Mao/save Nunnally. In contrast, Viletta could barely remember Lulu in the Shinjuku battle.

Ok, I'm done XD

m-san 2007-03-29 03:43

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Originally Posted by SinsI (Post 880271)
I got completely different impression, the authors prefer to deal with everything as soon as possible and don't drag it at all, so I think the situation is going to be resolved in this episode.

Well, it's actually possible for them to let Euphie live longer. She's quite a supporting character after all. They did drag on Shirley's knowledge of Zero's identity 'til now, you know. Besides, "resolved" may not necessarily mean Euphie's death. Maybe she'll like, end up in some mental institution or something XD

On a more serious note, if Euphie does die, I wonder what'll happen next. Suzaku will definitely freak. And so will Cornelia. Zero also seems to have (re-)formed his bond with Euphie and even sheds tears as he commands the Order to find and kill her. Will he be consumed by the power and his emotions and fall into a Mao-esque path of a Geass user? Or will he do otherwise, and still commit himself into his goals and his contract(s) with CC? Ack can't wait for this to get subbed :twitch:

Oh my. And don't forget Nina :heh:

Li Jianliang 2007-03-29 04:17

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Originally Posted by m-san (Post 880274)
Perhaps the Brittanian/Imperial family has some sort of immunity against Geass? I mean, when Lulu used Geass on himself, he quickly remembered what he was supposed to forget right after achieving his goal: to "defeat" Mao/save Nunnally. In contrast, Viletta could barely remember Lulu in the Shinjuku battle.

Lelouch did not literally 'remember'. He does completely forget about the plan and only deduces what he had done after the fact because he is smart enough to realize so.

I'm thinking that Suzaku will rush in to the stadium just in time to see Zero kill off Euphemia or have Euphemia attempt to gun him down, activating his Geass order and forcing him to stay away from protecting Euphemia until Zero shoots her.

Where will Cornelia appear in all of this? Probably last possible moment.

ccardoso 2007-03-29 04:45

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Originally Posted by m-san (Post 880274)
Perhaps the Brittanian/Imperial family has some sort of immunity against Geass? I mean, when Lulu used Geass on himself, he quickly remembered what he was supposed to forget right after achieving his goal: to "defeat" Mao/save Nunnally. In contrast, Viletta could barely remember Lulu in the Shinjuku battle.

Ok, I'm done XD

In that occasion Lelouch didn't remember anything: he GUESSED what was the original plan from Suzaku's words. Lelouch is famous for being smart so it's quite understandable that he reconstructed what happened in a fraction of time starting from mere hints.

Jazzrat 2007-03-29 04:51

I wonder what did Lelouch did with Dalton last episode. Somehow i think that's gonna come into plan with Cornelia soon.

I think it's possibly that Lelouch geassed Dalton to find out his mother's killer from Cornelia.

m-san 2007-03-29 06:02

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Originally Posted by Li Jianliang (Post 880315)
Lelouch did not literally 'remember'. He does completely forget about the plan and only deduces what he had done after the fact because he is smart enough to realize so.

Good point.

I'm still wondering why Euphie had that "I don't want to kill them" moment, though. Other ideas? Perhaps his Geass has become permanent but "weaker" in the sense that the victim does not immediately follow a command?

Skyfall 2007-03-29 06:08

I would bet on dramatic license :heh: And to makes us (the viewers) realize that something has gone very wrong :)

m-san 2007-03-29 06:25

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Originally Posted by Skyfall (Post 880378)
I would bet on dramatic license :heh: And to makes us (the viewers) realize that something has gone very wrong :)

I initally thought so, too :heh: , but who knows. I was thinking maybe it really did have something to do with the power/Geass itself. Their [Euphie's and Lulu's] dad is somewhat connected to Geass, after all. And what great timing for Lulu's Geass to become permanent -- just when he thinks he has "lost" [the Order] but "won" [for Nunnally], suddenly this whole Euphie-nator predicament is at hand.

Anyway, with Lulu's Geass now permanently activated, how do you think will he resume his normal life, like how will he go back to school and stuff? Anyone betting we'll be seeing a pirate Lulu, donning an eyepatch whenever he isn't Zero? :heh:

MUAHAHAHAHAHA 2007-03-29 06:26

In a few more hours,Code Geass will be aired.I am not comfortable with the thought of Lelouch's Geass becomes permanent.I wonder if he will go crazy someday like Mao.I hope not.

Euphemia is not my favourite character,so even if she dies,i don't really care.However,her death will definitely add "spice" to the show to me.

If Viletta gets her memory back,will Lelouch's identity in danger of being exposed?

Skyfall 2007-03-29 06:42

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Originally Posted by m-san (Post 880389)
Anyway, with Lulu's Geass now permanently activated, how do you think will he resume his normal life, like how will he go back to school and stuff? Anyone betting we'll be seeing a pirate Lulu, donning an eyepatch whenever he isn't Zero? :heh:

Well, he can always wear an eye patch and come up with whatever explanation behind its existance :) Fortunately for him, his geass is in only one of his eyes, unlike Mao.

As for the school ... i have a feeling the school will go boom soon enough :heh:

m-san 2007-03-29 06:54

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Originally Posted by Chinatsu-no-miya (Post 880390)
In a few more hours,Code Geass will be aired.I am not comfortable with the thought of Lelouch's Geass becomes permanent.I wonder if he will go crazy someday like Mao.I hope not.

Euphemia is not my favourite character,so even if she dies,i don't really care.However,her death will definitely add "spice" to the show to me.

If Viletta gets her memory back,will Lelouch's identity in danger of being exposed?

Are you the same Chinatsu-no-miya from TF? Hi! Remember me, m-san? :D

Anyway, Shirley rediscovering Zero's identity is already "dangerous" enough. I would've been happier if he'd just eliminated her in the first place. Somehow, Euphie has a special place in the story; she's pretty much like Nunnally. They just don't care about all the political and military ruckus, as long as they're happy. She's probably unique amongst the whole Imperial Family with this trait.

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Originally Posted by Skyfall (Post 880399)
Well, he can always wear an eye patch and come up with whatever explanation behind its existance :) Fortunately for him, his geass is in only one of his eyes, unlike Mao.

As for the school ... i have a feeling the school will go boom soon enough :heh:

Well, Milly did marry Lloyd so they could just leave this school business behind :heh: But what about Nunnally? Where'll she stay then? The Order's base? :heh:

MUAHAHAHAHAHA 2007-03-29 06:59

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Originally Posted by m-san (Post 880411)
Are you the same Chinatsu-no-miya from TF? Hi! Remember me, m-san? :D

Anyway, Shirley rediscovering Zero's identity is already "dangerous" enough. I would've been happier if he'd just eliminated her in the first place. Somehow, Euphie has a special place in the story; she's pretty much like Nunnally. They just don't care about all the political and military ruckus, as long as they're happy. She's probably unique amongst the whole Imperial Family with this trait.



Well, Milly did marry Lloyd so they could just leave this school business behind :heh: But what about Nunnally? Where'll she stay then? The Order's base? :heh:

Lol,actually it is Yuri百合 but hi m-san!Of course i remember you.

About Millay and Llyod's relationship,i am not sure if they can hit it off.But they both have got some chemistry,so it is a possibility they will get together.Like Euphemia too,I am not fond of Shirley.Shirley is equally as naive as Euphemia.For now,i hope Shirley will not have the same fate as Euphemia.

m-san 2007-03-29 07:08

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Originally Posted by Chinatsu-no-miya (Post 880418)
Lol,actually it is Yuri百合 but hi m-san!Of course i remember you.

About Millay and Llyod's relationship,i am not sure if they can hit it off.But they both have got some chemistry,so it is a possibility they will get together.Like Euphemia too,I am not fond of Shirley.Shirley is equally as naive as Euphemia.For now,i hope Shirley will not have the same fate as Euphemia.

It's not if they hit it off or not, but with Millay's marriage to Lloyd, who happens to be an earl :heh: , the Ashford family can regain their status in the Brittanian Empire and probably ditch Japan for good, if worse comes to worse.

MUAHAHAHAHAHA 2007-03-29 07:11

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Originally Posted by m-san (Post 880424)
It's not if they hit it off or not, but with Millay's marriage to Lloyd, who happens to be an earl :heh: , the Ashford family can regain their status in the Brittanian Empire and probably ditch Japan for good, if worse comes to worse.

Hmm,it is not hard for me to picture their marriage days if they get married.

Anyway,Ashford family's downfall is because they are close to Marianne,but will things change for them even if Millay marry Lloyd?I hope there will be some sort of love triangle between Lloyd,Millay and Cecile.that would be interesting

On the other hand,i wonder what Nina would do when she learns of Euphemia's death.I am most interested to know Suzaku and Nina's reaction.I am not going to wait for the subs.I am going to read summary instead because it will be like waiting forever for me

Skyfall 2007-03-29 07:17

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Originally Posted by m-san (Post 880411)
Well, Milly did marry Lloyd so they could just leave this school business behind :heh: But what about Nunnally? Where'll she stay then? The Order's base? :heh:

If all sh*t hist the fan, i doubt there are any other options :) Though this would give very good hints about Zero's identity to Kallen. At any rate - would be nice to see how Nunnally would react to the knowlidge that Lulu = Zero :)

... though the other option would be for her to live in Kaguya's place - i think she will get some spotlight very soon and will be very inwolved with Zero and the order :) (and i get the feeling she will find out Zero's identity as well)


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