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CrowKenobi 2007-06-02 22:50

Kanon 2006 Licensing by ADV Films (now by Funimation)
 
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Originally Posted by animeondvd.com
ADV Films Registers Kanon (09:44 PM EDT): Though as we've seen in the past, registering a domain name does not always equal a license by that company or even a license at all. It is rare however to see ADV Films registering a domain like this and not doing it through a proxy as most try to do. Newly discovered today (6/2/2007) is that they have registered the domain for Kanon TV. With their acquisition of Air TV it isn't exactly a surprise if it pans out and this will surely fuel the speculation a bit more.

So, good news? :D

:cool:

Ice Climbers 2007-06-02 23:08

Hope the dubbing is cool if they are going to license this series (from my past experiences, I am not setting my hopes very high :()

Mirrinus 2007-06-02 23:09

Oh? This is a most interesting development. I wouldn't be surprised, I guess, considering that they already have AIR.

Will they eventually pick up Clannad as well then? >.>

FatPianoBoy 2007-06-02 23:37

Hmm... Wouldn't releasing these series side-by-side be bad marketing? Releases of this caliber generate competition among those with less disposable income, and competing with yourself is just bad business.

CrowKenobi 2007-06-03 00:26

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Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy (Post 975404)
Hmm... Wouldn't releasing these series side-by-side be bad marketing? Releases of this caliber generate competition among those with less disposable income, and competing with yourself is just bad business.

If the licensing goes through (I would expect the announcement <if any> at Anime Expo), I would speculate that the first volume could be out in December since Air would be done by then (with its monthly release starting in August).

But then again, I could be wrong about the whole thing. :heh: :eyespin:

:cool:

Vexx 2007-06-03 00:40

As far as I can tell, there doesn't seem to be any LE version of Air (TV). I just placed a pre-order for the standard version they're offering over at DVDpacific.

I wonder if they're going to just release Kanon the same way.

Ya know.... I actually don't give a darn if there's any dub at all on these. Too much of the show is dependent on the *acting* of the VAs. That said... I guess we'll see when we see whether they're going to give these items "gold glove" like the Haruhi series got in its R1 release.
(I suspect not... but I've been wrong enough times now not to weight my speculation heavily)

Kaioshin Sama 2007-06-03 00:51

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Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy (Post 975404)
Hmm... Wouldn't releasing these series side-by-side be bad marketing? Releases of this caliber generate competition among those with less disposable income, and competing with yourself is just bad business.

Given the similiarities between the titles I would think they should wait a little while between the last volume of Air and the first volume of Kanon, at least as long as between Kanon and Clannad (which I think was too short a time spread as well but I guess that's the bare minimum to go by that we know of). Otherwise people won't know which one to buy.

Though ADV's business practices seem to be akin to a self-inflicted gunshot wound, such as licensing anything and everything in site (for a while) and putting a poor effort into the subtitles and dub (at least in the case of my Dunbine DVD's). For a while there it seemed like they were trying to crash the market 1980's video game crash style, so who knows exactly what they have in mind with this.

Who wants to call Crispen Freeman as Yuuichi if they do license it though?

CrowKenobi 2007-06-03 01:21

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama (Post 975485)
Who wants to call Crispen Freeman as Yuuichi if they do license it though?

I'd rather see Chris Patton as Yuuichi. :D

:cool:

Sorrow-K 2007-06-03 07:14

News of the millennium!... or not.

I don't disagree that the timing could potentially be very poor if Kanon and Air are sold concurrently for the reasons mentioned in this thread, which makes me think that ADV don't see either titles as being big winners outside of a very niche market that have already seen them. Which is a pity, since they're probably not going to be marketed in such a way that their exposure or fanbase is going to grow a great deal thanks to this (possible) license. I'm also ruing the fact that it's ADV. Of the three major N.A. licensing companies, ADV is the one I trust the least. I'd sleep far more comfortably if this were in the hands of Geneon or Funi.

Nonetheless, this is one of those titles that doesn't lend itself very easily to an English dub (although, admittedly, Air is probably a far greater challenge to dub than this is). Thus, I don't have terribly high expectations for the dub. Oh well, if it does eventuate, I'll certainly buy it.

Asrialys 2007-06-03 11:14

Hm...if this goes through, I'd like to see how they handle that whole boku/atashi thing with Ayu in the dub. That'll take some creativity.

Klashikari 2007-06-03 11:22

^ shiritori won't be an easy adaptation either, considering yuuichi's reaction about the san :heh:

darkchibi07 2007-06-03 11:31

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Originally Posted by Klashikari (Post 976123)
^ shiritori won't be an easy adaptation either, considering yuuichi's reaction about the san :heh:

They could have the English VAs say it in Japanese with subtitle notes on top.

Kaioshin Sama 2007-06-03 12:36

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Originally Posted by Sorrow-K (Post 975809)
News of the millennium!... or not.

I don't disagree that the timing could potentially be very poor if Kanon and Air are sold concurrently for the reasons mentioned in this thread, which makes me think that ADV don't see either titles as being big winners outside of a very niche market that have already seen them. Which is a pity, since they're probably not going to be marketed in such a way that their exposure or fanbase is going to grow a great deal thanks to this (possible) license. I'm also ruing the fact that it's ADV. Of the three major N.A. licensing companies, ADV is the one I trust the least. I'd sleep far more comfortably if this were in the hands of Geneon or Funi.

Nonetheless, this is one of those titles that doesn't lend itself very easily to an English dub (although, admittedly, Air is probably a far greater challenge to dub than this is). Thus, I don't have terribly high expectations for the dub. Oh well, if it does eventuate, I'll certainly buy it.

If they really on the fans of the anime on the internet to buy it, won't it pretty much just sell itself. Like a Key fan walks into a store and see's Air or Kanon or both, "Get". Also fans of Key's games in the west are likely to buy both at the same time. I bought Final Fantasy III DS and Final Fantasy XII at the same time and they were released within two days of each other in a rather poor decision for Final Fantasy III DS's sales....then again FF has higher name recognition than Kanon or Air. It'll come down to the fans and I think they are pretty hardcore enough to buy both at the same time. It depends on how many of them there really are in the West.

relentlessflame 2007-06-03 15:43

The most probable reason for the domain registration is to prevent cybersquatting. They made a comment at the AIR license announcement that if it sells well, they'd consider Kanon (which is a bigger investment, given the higher episode count). Registering the domain for safekeeping, after making that announcement, just makes sense. Given how much work it probably was to get both Toei and Pony Canyon on board for Air, they probably left themselves options for Kanon in both cases too. In either case, AIR sales will tell the story, I think. They won't release both at once.

pb186 2007-06-04 00:12

if you read the press release about air tv cast list... they have blatent clues about kanon in there... either they really do have kanon or they are just teasing us... girl b likes to say "uguu" lol

Ice Climbers 2007-06-04 01:46

Wonder how they are going to dub Nayuki's sleeping awesomeness; Hope the dubbing won't ruin it

And yes, uguu does NOT sound good in English

cyth 2007-06-04 01:56

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Originally Posted by Ice Climbers (Post 977063)
Wonder how they are going to dub Nayuki's sleeping awesomeness; Hope the dubbing won't ruin it

I'm still completely baffled as to why hardcore Japanese dub fans would care for English dubs? :confused:

And some material to think about from one of Ask John's older topics (Animenation.net):
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Originally Posted by Ask John
Given the popularity of the Air franchise in Japan, the anime was probably not cheap to license. Having to negotiate distribution rights with two different distributors for the television and movie animation probably dramatically increased the cost of licensing the franchise also. Although I have no specific "insider information" to base my speculation on, I have an instinctual feeling that on a purely economic level, AD Vision may lose money on the Air license. I don't believe that any domestic licensor could possibly sell enough Air DVDs in America to make the title profitable. However, AD Vision may still be able to profit from the acquisition in various ways. Merely acquiring distribution rights to this high profile franchise brings valuable attention to AD Vision. Regardless of profitability, a catalog of high profile titles helps establish a valuable corporate reputation and recognition. Furthermore, I'm sure that there are AD Vision staff members who are very excited and pleased to have acquired this fan favorite franchise. Based only on my own instincts, I doubt that the Air anime will be financially profitable in America, but AD Vision's acquisition may generate significant intangible value in the form of support from the fan community and interest in the company.


Ice Climbers 2007-06-04 01:58

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Originally Posted by Toua (Post 977071)
I'm still completely baffled as to why would hardcore Japanese dub fans care for English dubs? :confused:

Haha I wouldn't consider myself as "hardcore" but, well, with my past experiences Japanese dubs really ARE better (except some English dubs I have to admit are good, like Chobits and Tales of Symphonia)

Well I care probably because I want them to get better i guess lol

cyth 2007-06-04 02:06

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Originally Posted by Ice Climbers (Post 977078)
Well I care probably because I want them to get better i guess lol

Both you and me know that's never going to happen. :p

rooboy 2007-06-04 11:40

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Originally Posted by Vexx (Post 975477)
As far as I can tell, there doesn't seem to be any LE version of Air (TV). I just placed a pre-order for the standard version they're offering over at DVDpacific.

ADV has switched to doing the boxes with the second volumes of series to allow people to try it without having to feel like they need the box. The thinking is that after the first volume, if you really like it, you'll buy the second volume with the box. As far as an actual limited edition, I don't think ADV ever does those.


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