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DarkT 2007-06-11 11:49

What do you use for your loseless pass?
 
For curiousitys sake - what do you people use?

ffdshow 2007-06-11 11:53

Lagarith of course (for YV12).

martino 2007-06-11 11:55

I use the option in MeGui...

May I ask as to what that represents??? I only know of x264, XviD, LMP4 and Snow in MeGUI (and only two of those can do lossless AFAIK, and for their use I would say rather pointless to use them for a lossless pass). >_>

/me voted for Huffy

DarkT 2007-06-11 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by martino (Post 989005)
I use the option in MeGui...

May I ask as to what that represents??? I only know of x264, XviD, LMP4 and Snow in MeGUI (and only two of those can do lossless AFAIK, and for their use I would say rather pointless to use them for a lossless pass). >_>

/me voted for Huffy

It represents "Add Pre-Rendering" box-thingy-optiony :), meow ;).

's basically huffyuv from what I know - but from what I also know, last time I checked the file size it produced was much smaller then that of huffyuv I once tried - so I never used that option since I never trusted it :).

But here's from da wiki:

"Pre-rendering job
Checking this box before you click 'enqueue' will create an extra job that runs before the encoding. This job will encode the input script to a (lossless) HuffYUV file, and then use that file for input for your encoding. The advantage of this is that your avisynth script will only have to run once, meaning a 2+ pass encode will run faster.

Caveats:

Lossless files can be large. A 2hr DVD movie will come in around 30gb, a 2hr 720p file closer to 60gb.
The huffyuv file is output to the same location as the input script, not to the same location as the final file.
"

TheFluff 2007-06-11 17:44

Voted HuffYUV.

xat 2007-06-11 18:27

Lagarith here; also have Huffyuv at the ready in case something catastrophic occurs.

DarkT 2007-06-11 19:08

Lol, somethin' don' add up, if you use laga, ffd-d00d uses laga, and *I* use laga, it should have 3 votes... IT'S A CONSPIRACY BY THE HUFFYUV PEOPLE! I AM SURE OF IT!

>.>
<.<

Seriously though, I though there'd be more votes(in general) meow... :(

Starks 2007-06-11 19:50

Voted Huffy.

It does the same job as Lagarith in a much more reasonable timeframe.

Yumi` 2007-06-11 20:08

h264 qp0
Since fft3dgpu is slower anyway.

xat 2007-06-11 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkT (Post 989479)
Lol, somethin' don' add up, if you use laga, ffd-d00d uses laga, and *I* use laga, it should have 3 votes... IT'S A CONSPIRACY BY THE HUFFYUV PEOPLE! I AM SURE OF IT!

>.>
<.<

Seriously though, I though there'd be more votes(in general) meow... :(

I tend not to vote in polls, so there's your answer. I doubt most of us are really concerned over who uses what so that probably contributes to the lack of turnout.

DarkT 2007-06-11 21:21

Awww, bascally you're saying encoders are no fun? :).

Meh... Can't they humor me? :).

Ah well...

Starks 2007-06-11 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkT (Post 989682)
Awww, bascally you're saying encoders are no fun? :).

Meh... Can't they humor me? :).

Ah well...

(Don't mind xat... He's one of those "quiet encoders".)

Encoders are buckets of fun, especially when there is a n00b to pick on.

Zanejin 2007-06-12 00:40

Definitely FFDShow's HuffYUV. As long as the compression is barely reasonable, I go purely for speed.

checkers 2007-06-12 01:40

megui uses huffyuv

shinjipierre 2007-06-12 04:18

I still Use VBLE, it's really fast to work with in after effects.

Crovax 2007-06-12 07:08

Da huffman!

[darkfire] 2007-06-12 11:51

Huff of course... Purely for speed. With terabyte hard drives I can care less about the size.

martino 2007-06-12 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by [darkfire] (Post 990679)
Huff of course... Purely for speed. With terabyte hard drives I can care less about the size.

Well, it's not like you need that much space either way since 25min @ 704x400 takes about 4-5GB and 720p 10-11GB. And then it's not like you archive the lossless passes...or do you? :heh:

Nicholi 2007-06-12 15:44

Just a minor note, you might want to differentiate the original Huffyuv (which is not YV12 capable) from the one in FFMPEG by referring to it as FF-Huffyuv...or sometimes just abbreviated FFVH (the fourcc used). I usually call it FFVH anyways :P, which is what I voted for...meow :).

DarkT 2007-06-12 15:46

Nah, I just grouped the enemy into one name :), besides, I don't think many here use the non-yv12 version... who needs an extra colorspace conversion? (or whatever that's called)


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