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Skyfall 2007-10-22 10:35

Character discussion - Kyou
 
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Rhyel 2007-10-22 12:50

She is the funny side of the story, apparent no problems, with support of sister and pet, Kyou in scene is to happy moments. :)

KaneDragon 2007-10-22 12:57

Kyou is a delicious tsundere, with light-blue panties. :D

tabun 2007-10-22 14:23

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Originally Posted by KaneDragon
Kyou is a delicious tsundere, with light-blue panties. :D

Alas, I can feel the tsundere quarreling from the episode 3 thread sweeping over to this one and the one devoted to Tomoyo *braces for impact*

I like her pretty much as a character, even more so since the blushing in the last episode. Not so much the pet, that is the icing on the cake, but the blushing :heh: Rowdy girls with a soft spot are always the most appealing characters to me!

Edit (@Ultima_Rasengan05)
I surely hope she won't be reduced to "the girl that always appears to beat up Sunohara" (neither would I like Tomoya to become "the girl Sunohara goes to in order to get beat up" :p ). So far, I like the subtle approach on her possible attraction to Tomoya (blushing sideglance at him at the mentioning of "something blue", how cute! ^,^

Ultima_Rasengan05 2007-10-22 14:25

Kyou really likes to throw books just to get Tomoya's attention. Next to Tomoyo, Kyou has the "cool" characteristic within her that makes you think even though she acts like she's bullying Tomoya most of the time, she can be a cool person to hang out with. I even think that with all the "bullying" that she did to Tomoya so far, I think she might like the guy. I also think of Kyou as the comedic relief in the show instead of Sunohara, even though Sunohara was suppose to be the comedic relief in Clannad.:heh: Although we don't really know much about what story she has to contribute to Clannad, at least we know she is "bi"...haha:D

DazarGaidin 2007-10-22 14:38

I like her, i dont think she is really tsundere, id think that would apply more to tomoyo. Kyou seems more like chidori from FMP, wild and outlandish. I am talking about this anime here, i know she might have been different in the game (which i know ziltch about).

Kang Seung Jae 2007-10-22 19:53

Kyou does have a strong tsundere aspect, especially in her offensive way of dealing with Tomoya.

houkoholic 2007-10-22 20:40

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Originally Posted by DazarGaidin (Post 1214832)
I like her, i dont think she is really tsundere, id think that would apply more to tomoyo.

Tomoyo is not tsundere, not even close. Tomoyo speaks her mind and is straight as nails to express all her feelings, that's the opposite of a tsundere.

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Kyou seems more like chidori from FMP.
Chidori from FMP is very much a tsundere. If you think Chidori is not tsundere, you need your definition of "tsundere" checked, very badly.

Remember people, a tsundere girl CAN be wild in nature, the key is the "denial" bit.

-Breakthrough- 2007-10-22 21:45

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Kyou does have a strong tsundere aspect, especially in her offensive way of dealing with Tomoya.
Hey, it's something we all love ^_~ Plus, her strategies are quite hilarious.
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She is the funny side of the story, apparent no problems, with support of sister and pet, Kyou in scene is to happy moments.
Yeah, her imutou relationship does always warm my heart and her pet is just funny.

Kang Seung Jae 2007-10-22 22:02

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Originally Posted by houkoholic (Post 1215313)
Remember people, a tsundere girl CAN be wild in nature, the key is the "denial" bit.


No, the key of Tsundere is "Hostile to the beloved at first, but warms up to him/her."


That's why I said Kyou as a strong tsundere aspect: She isn't hostile enough to be a full-blown tsundere (unlike Asuka of Eva.)

Nightengale 2007-10-22 22:40

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae (Post 1215452)
No, the key of Tsundere is "Hostile to the beloved at first, but warms up to him/her."


That's why I said Kyou as a strong tsundere aspect: She isn't hostile enough to be a full-blown tsundere (unlike Asuka of Eva.)

That is the old tsundere concept, in my words, the 蓮蓉月饼 (( lotus mooncake )) of tsundere, which or which may not include yolk. :p

Definition of tsundere had evolved since then. Even alternations of facets that need not actual hostility, so long as it works betwen denial-harbored feelings, etc etc etc, it is tsundere, kinda those modern snow-mooncakes. 8P

Kang Seung Jae 2007-10-22 22:54

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Originally Posted by Nightengale (Post 1215503)
That is the old tsundere concept, in my words, the 蓮蓉月饼 (( lotus mooncake )) of tsundere, which or which may not include yolk. :p

Definition of tsundere had evolved since then. Even alternations of facets that need not actual hostility, so long as it works betwen denial-harbored feelings, etc etc etc, it is tsundere, kinda those modern snow-mooncakes. 8P


I'm too much of a traditionalist to accept that as "tsundere."

It's "tsundere lite", according to me.

Ascaloth 2007-10-22 22:59

In other words, Kang Seung Jae subscribes to the "Shiraishi-ist" school of "classical" tsundere. Nothing particularly wrong there. :p

kct 2007-10-22 23:05

Haha, if there is another term that does not use the word 'tsundere' (more so since she was receptive to Tomoya most of the time, if not for some of the kinks left and right) are 'ballistic'.

Of course, her qualities other than that (protective sister, Botan, etc.) makes her an interesting character.

Kang Seung Jae 2007-10-22 23:11

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Originally Posted by Ascaloth (Post 1215541)
In other words, Kang Seung Jae subscribes to the "Shiraishi-ist" school of "classical" tsundere. Nothing particularly wrong there. :p


"Shiraishi-ist"? Care to explain?

kct 2007-10-22 23:20

I think something along the lines of what the Shiraishi guy said in one of the Lucky Channel segments.

Kang Seung Jae 2007-10-22 23:51

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Originally Posted by kct (Post 1215567)
I think something along the lines of what the Shiraishi guy said in one of the Lucky Channel segments.


Oh, you mean this? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgdcWSvdLCc


True, I'm a classical tsundereist.

dgreater1 2007-10-23 00:47

A very simple explanation

Tsundere is taken from the Japanese word...

つんつん (tsuntsun) = aloof (can be wild, talkative, forceful, etc)
でれでれ (deredere) = lovestruck (suddenly become really shy, embarrassed, trying to deny her own feelings)

It means from tsuntsun to deredere (つんでれ), so in short, switching from being wild to being embarrassed and vice versa.

Kyou definitely is a tsundere, I won't tell the reason because that would mean spoiling your fun :D

As for Tomoyo, she' more of a tsuntsun type than deredere so we can't really say she's tsundere. Tomoyo is a straightforward girl with a wild side to say it short (not as wild as Kyou when it comes to Tomoya though).

Kang Seung Jae 2007-10-23 00:54

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Originally Posted by dgreater1 (Post 1215676)
A very simple explanation

Tsundere is taken from the Japanese word...

つんつん (tsuntsun) = aloof (can be wild, talkative, forceful, etc)
でれでれ (deredere) = lovestruck (suddenly become really shy, embarrassed, trying to deny her own feelings)

It means from tsuntsun to deredere (つんでれ), so in short, switching from being wild to being embarrassed and vice versa.

This is where the traditionalists and modernist split. Traditional is one-way, while modern is two-way

dgreater1 2007-10-23 01:14

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae (Post 1215690)
This is where the traditionalists and modernist split. Traditional is one-way, while modern is two-way

Geh... I'm outdated as always. Anyway mind if you explain the difference between Traditional and Modern (don't really know anything about modern type tsundere) tsundere? I'm Lazy Mode right now to search for it :heh:


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