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xris 2008-12-24 08:54

Tales of the Abyss - Episode 13 Discussion / Poll
 
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serenade_beta 2008-12-24 12:32

Kannagi, Toaru=1 day before, created
Abyss=...Pff...

Well, I have the memory that it was an interesting episode... It's been a while, so I can't clearly remember...

Natalia isn't really Natalia!? Wonder if we are going to repeat this pattern again, since Luke wasn't Luke either... (-_-)

Wonderful parents Natalia has, really wonderful parents. Nice servant too. <--sarcasm

Vesperia development... (-_-)/

Shiroth 2008-12-24 13:15

Mohs is great JUST AS PLANNED material.

Starks 2008-12-24 13:38

My memories of the game are a bit fuzzy, but how far did this episode deviate with regard to the Albiore and Noelle?

OceanBlue 2008-12-24 16:29

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Originally Posted by Starks (Post 2125385)
My memories of the game are a bit fuzzy, but how far did this episode deviate with regard to the Albiore and Noelle?

In the game, you have to go to Sheridan, talk to the mechanics, go get the Albiore from the Meggiora Highlands, have it fit with parts from the Tartarus, and then you go to St. Binah with Noelle.

I found the end of this episode really touching. Seeing crowds of people instead of groups of three or four really makes it seem stronger, in my opinion.

FlareKnight 2008-12-25 03:10

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Originally Posted by OceanBlue (Post 2125571)
In the game, you have to go to Sheridan, talk to the mechanics, go get the Albiore from the Meggiora Highlands, have it fit with parts from the Tartarus, and then you go to St. Binah with Noelle.

I found the end of this episode really touching. Seeing crowds of people instead of groups of three or four really makes it seem stronger, in my opinion.

Yeah really was a nice scene seeing that crowd come together to protect Natalia. Besides royal blood really doesn't matter to those people anyways. I mean really it may just make them feel even closer to her.

Asch does a lot of behind the scenes work.

SkoolRumble4Ya 2008-12-25 16:23

Natalia parents are cold hearted who gives a crap about her not being a real royal blood. They still took care of her all their life.

rose-wisteria 2008-12-25 21:30

The last scene made me teary-eyed.... it was so beautiful. :( I like this developing episode a lot. I hate Mohs as much as I do before. I love this episode. It's a nice lead up to the next one, which I predict to be fantastic.

Cight 2008-12-26 07:11

Natalia's father and Peony are out of their minds. They're going to keep fighting over an area they know is going to be destroyed and that could very well take their entire army with it. Not to mention Natalia's father discarding his only heir in a heart beat because some git in a silly hat said to. Speaking of Mohs why exactly is Ion so powerless against him? He's suppose to be the 'master' after all.

Sinestra 2008-12-26 10:03

Well as my family existed the premises i fired up my PC to watch episode 13.

Some interesting events occurred this episode. I never had any doubts about Natalia and her paternity. So this came as quite a shock to me but it makes for an interesting side story. I love how her father was so quick to decide on their deaths and how eager he is to go to war. I dont think any of them including Mohs knows just how bad events are going to play out if Van is not stopped. I found Natalia father a cold hearted bastard he had no reservations about killing her. But the people decided to protect the princess she might not be of royal blood but she is a true princess where it counts and if she has the support of the people the king may be screwed

We also had the opportunity to see Asche come to the rescue and see that their is dissent within the ranks of the God Generals as to the plan at hand and some are divating and serving their own self interest this could lead to the group splitting off into factions. Im still curious as to link between Natalia and the Black Lion every time he sees her he seems very familiar with her. Also, we saw the concern in Natalia's eyes when Asche said he would hold them off and she called him Luke not Asche. I think we know where her true heart lies and its not with the clone Luke which is fine because i prefer Tear anyway.

Next episode we get more Guy and what exactly happened to him all those years ago after surviving his families death.

kujoe 2008-12-27 14:19

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Originally Posted by Sinestra
I found Natalia father a cold hearted bastard he had no reservations about killing her. But the people decided to protect the princess she might not be of royal blood but she is a true princess where it counts and if she has the support of the people the king may be screwed

This shouldn't come as a surprise considering he's the same king who gives the order to Luke to be the ambassador to Akzeriuth knowing that he's going to die according to the Score in that very place. If Luke had not been made, it would've been Asch who would've gone there. And then, there's the Duke as well... Well, I guess that explains why he's more distant compared to his wife Suzanne, who is on the other hand, overprotective.

However, I haven't seen this episode yet, but after reading the reactions on this thread it seems like there's a deviation from the game somewhere.

Deathkillz 2008-12-27 16:26

Some thoughts...

Ditto on the kind being cold hearted bastard...

NoLongerSane 2008-12-28 03:37

I thought the episode was enjoyable to watch. Also, you have to look that the kings action was based of from Mohs has informed him and what Mohs represents in the Score. The king was placing his people before his daughter and was going on the saying of Mohs. As for the Score itself, I am not going to say much to spoil anything, but you will be amazed on how many lives were affected by the Score in one painful way or another. As for Mohs, he is just getting started playing an evil bastard.

dragonstar13 2008-12-28 04:52

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Originally Posted by Cight (Post 2127850)
Natalia's father and Peony are out of their minds. They're going to keep fighting over an area they know is going to be destroyed and that could very well take their entire army with it. Not to mention Natalia's father discarding his only heir in a heart beat because some git in a silly hat said to. Speaking of Mohs why exactly is Ion so powerless against him? He's suppose to be the 'master' after all.

For the record, Peony didn't really have a choice. It was either fight back, or let Kimlasca kill everyone and take over. So Peony has little choice in the matter, and Peony did try to send Ion before with a letter of peace. The King however, yes, was cold-hearted to not even have a trial for Natalia. Poor girl didn't even get to talk to him. Part of the reason why he behaved this way is because he was bamboozled by Mohs' discovery. Knowing the king is in an emotional stage, he uses this to confuse the king, and convince him to kill Natalia and Luke. If Natalia is alive, even if she is an impostor, the war would be a mistake. Natalia and Luke's death was the reason why Kimlasca went to war in the first place. I assume Mohs informed the king of this, and why he insists to kill them right away, instead of having a trial.
Ion may have been able to help stop the war, if he went to Kimlasca with Luke. If Ion did go, he would have been able to talk to the King, and perhaps even convince the King not to go to war. Mohs can't actually go against Ion publicly, so he does things in the background instead. Which is what happened in ep.11, when Ion and Natalia were captured.

Frailty 2008-12-30 02:44

the end part lacked that the White Knights and Pere helped them escape like in the game
but overall a good episode

next episode will be good too I think since
Spoiler for spoiler:

typhonsentra 2008-12-31 14:42

Maan, I'm getting really sick of the one word sentence trail-offs in this script.

"Luke...."

"Tear...."

GreenLama 2009-03-14 09:07

This was THE BEST episode of Tales of the Abyss yet, in my opinion. Mohs is a true villain in every sense of the word and has turned the entire town against both her and Luke and now their lives hang in the balance. Thanks to Asche, they were able to get out of town and live to fight another day, but now I wonder what is going to happen to Asche, it does not appear that Asche and Luke will battle but instead I have the feeling Asche is going to suffer a bad fate by Mohs or Van eventually. Oh the drama!

I will be watching episode 14 tonight, I can't wait!

kitten320 2011-10-14 10:52

WTF?! What kind of asshole father is that?! Who cares if she is not of his blood! She was raised by him and no one else, how could she possible be a traitor?!

If he will ever apologize I hope Natalia won't accept them though I doubt that.


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