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Klashikari 2009-07-11 13:34

Character discussion - Battler
 
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Ssol 2009-07-11 15:31

Battler's a pretty unique name. :) I always wondered if it's pronounced Battl-er or Batt-ler.

Klashikari 2009-07-11 15:35

The thing is that... if we consider how it is pronounced in Japanese, it is arguably not even close to the english pronunciation.
As a reminder, Battler's name is pronunced "Batora".

Marion 2009-07-11 15:42

Despite how Western the names sound they're much different from what you would think.

Ma-ree-ah is pronouced Mar-e-ahh for example.

But anyways, I've always liked Battler. Despite his almost cliche perverted tendencies, he has a good head on his shoulders.

Christen 2009-07-11 20:45

Battler is like a loose English translation of the kanji since the kanji can be translated as fighting man.

Jan-Poo 2009-07-12 07:24

Battler's name is the most unusual in the whole family. In every other case the western names are recreated by using the phonetics of the kanji. but their meanings differ greatly from the original names meanings.

In the case of Battler it's the total opposite. There's no way you can read 戦人 as "Batora", but the meanings of these two Kanji are respectively: "war" and "person". So in this case it's the meaning that matter however you must use the english word "Battler" which then becomes "Batora" in the limited japanese pronounciation. Quite a mindfuck.

This is somewhat similar to Light Yagami from Death Note. His name is the Kanji of "moon", however you must read it as "light" (this isn't even a correct translation!), and then in japanese becomes "Raito".

Oh it must be so cool having to explain how to pronounce and write your name everytime...

yuugi99 2009-07-14 21:01

I dunno why but Battler reminds me a bit of Sunohara from Clannad. Maybe because the first impression he gives is pervertedness.

Oekitarts 2009-07-15 08:08

Hmm... isn't Battler really like, some sort of homage to Naruhodou (Wright)?
Like for example, a certain character in Higurashi is to Ciel in Tsukihime?

Marion 2009-07-15 09:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oekitarts (Post 2516246)
Hmm... isn't Battler really like, some sort of homage to Naruhodou (Wright)?
Like for example, a certain character in Higurashi is to Ciel in Tsukihime?

You can't really base that idea off, because besides that one pose they don't really have similar traits...

well okay besides the odd hair :heh:

lovelysan 2009-07-15 11:47

And objection music >D .

Archer 2009-07-15 12:55

Congrats on turning 41, Battler.

June 1983 2009-07-15 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 2516717)
Congrats on turning 41, Battler.

Oh lord. And I just played that scene TODAY and that didn't even occur to me. Durrr!!!

metronome 2009-07-15 17:13

Ha, for some reason I envy him>.<

Tamad 2009-07-15 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oekitarts (Post 2516246)
Hmm... isn't Battler really like, some sort of homage to Naruhodou (Wright)?
Like for example, a certain character in Higurashi is to Ciel in Tsukihime?

Here I thought I was the only one to make that connection when I first saw Battler. The pose did it for me, but yeah they are worlds apart personality wise.

He's a pretty cool guy though, even if he has a one track mind focused on breasts.

metronome 2009-07-15 19:28

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Originally Posted by Tamad (Post 2517378)

He's a pretty cool guy though, even if he has a one track mind focused on breasts.

Too bad I dont think he is as smart as wright:D.
and urgh, his mind is focused on breast and now he is surrounded by girls:D.lucky him(or may be not, but still...)

June 1983 2009-07-15 19:32

I would say there are MANY homages to Gyakuten Saiban in Umineko.

Heck, even this BGM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhMwqlK2rzA

Sure reminds me of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB0Fu7N-Zw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIT67wYZUb8

unconfirmed 2009-07-15 19:39

Although I've never played Pheonix Wright games before (or even own a NDS..), I'm guessing it's safe to say that Umineko is superior? Or not...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB0Fu7N-Zw0
This reminded me more of Shirabe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as2se5qeRVc

June 1983 2009-07-15 19:50

Eh, I wouldn't want to compare them. They are very different types of games, really. GS isn't really meant to be taken too seriously, it is just silly fun. And it has more gameplay elements to it, while Umineko of course is all about sitting back and watching it unfold, so the experiences are completely different. The GS games are masterpieces in their own way.

Christen 2009-07-15 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by unconfirmed (Post 2517488)
Although I've never played Pheonix Wright games before (or even own a NDS..), I'm guessing it's safe to say that Umineko is superior? Or not...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB0Fu7N-Zw0
This reminded me more of Shirabe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as2se5qeRVc

You can't compare them really. It's because Gyakuten Saiban builds it's cases on logic and real world rules...
Spoiler for spoiler on Phoenix Wright series:

Aanyway, you can't compare them really, and I'm a fan of both series.

Jan-Poo 2009-07-16 08:10

Why would you care to state which one is superior? Phoenix Wright is a great game and most certainly inspired Ryukishi for his latest work.


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