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CrowKenobi 2009-08-26 06:02

The Character Discussion Thread of SOS団 Member: Kyon
 
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Jintor 2009-08-26 08:42

I wish more anime had an overly sarcastic unreliable narrator.

hai_san 2009-08-26 08:55

I dont know which i like more the "character of Kyon" or the seiryuu Tomokazu Sugita.

Heatth 2009-08-26 09:49

Well, I think he is awesome in the novel too. Though Sugita really does a exellent job (I am kinda going to watch Kannon onlt because of him).

But, about the 'unreliable narrator' part. Sure, he certanly don't say all he can about his personal feelings, as Disappearance can show us very well. But some seens to act as he is aways lieing, even whe describing something. Why people get this idea? There is some point in the books he does something like that? I so, where?

Jintor 2009-08-26 10:06

It's kind of like lying to himself, primarily re: Haruhi.

Solais 2009-08-26 10:27

Kyon is a cynical bastard who seems to hate everybody and complains about everything. But he actually thinks the opposite, and snarks for the lulz. He's the best.

Heatth 2009-08-26 10:31

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Originally Posted by Jintor (Post 2605853)
It's kind of like lying to himself, primarily re: Haruhi.

I know about that. People seens to use it for other situations too. Wich don't make sense to me.

Starry Dust 2009-08-26 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solais (Post 2605893)
Kyon is a cynical bastard who seems to hate everybody and complains about everything. But he actually thinks the opposite, and snarks for the lulz. He's the best.

And that's why I love him ;)

Except for when he's being lazy.

Triple_R 2009-08-26 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heatth (Post 2605815)
Well, I think he is awesome in the novel too. Though Sugita really does a exellent job (I am kinda going to watch Kannon onlt because of him).

But, about the 'unreliable narrator' part. Sure, he certanly don't say all he can about his personal feelings, as Disappearance can show us very well. But some seens to act as he is aways lieing, even whe describing something. Why people get this idea? There is some point in the books he does something like that? I so, where?

Spoiler for Novel spoilers:

Heatth 2009-08-26 12:16

No, I mean people who seens to think he blatantly lies about things.

Spoiler for novel spoiler:


He seens to lie about what he thinks of people, but some seens to think he lies about what happens too.

Triple_R 2009-08-26 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heatth (Post 2606072)
No, I mean people who seens to think he blatantly lies about things.

Spoiler for novel spoiler:


He seens to lie about what he thinks of people, but some seens to think he lies about what happens too.

Oh, well... I think that Kyon is a fairly reliable narrator when it comes to describing, say, the physical setting around him. Or what other people are doing.

It's mainly when it comes to what he thinks of people, that he isn't reliable.

Simplicity 2009-08-26 16:50

Would you say that Kyon's excessive use of similes (in the novels anyway) is a personality quirk or just a part of the author's writing style? I think of it as a personality quirk but in a review for the first novel blames the author for all the similes. I haven't read any other works by Tanigawa though so I can't say for sure.

Kogetsu Shirogane 2009-08-26 17:31

Kyon never uses that kind of language in his dialogue, and his thoughts with similes are almost exclusively related to Mikuru. It's mainly the style of narrative.

*e* Never thought I'd be posting in this thread. :heh:

vivify93 2009-08-26 18:09

Kyon is hot.

Unfortunately, Kyon is a giant homophobe. Therefore, Kyon gets a 75.3 rating on the Anime Boy Scale of Hotness to Another Boy.

...Yeah.

Speaking of that, is it just me, or does every girl and their grandmother want to jump Kyon's bones? It was pointed out by someone else that...

Spoiler for spoilers for the novels, but it's really minor:

wittyusername 2009-08-26 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivify93 (Post 2606763)
Kyon is hot.

...You're not one to mince words, are you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivify93 (Post 2606763)
Unfortunately, Kyon is a giant homophobe.

Since when is this a problem in ero doujin?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivify93 (Post 2606763)
Speaking of that, is it just me, or does every girl and their grandmother want to jump Kyon's bones? It was pointed out by someone else that...

Spoiler for spoilers for the novels, but it's really minor:

Despite what he says about himself, Kyon is pretty cute. He's not necessarily as pretty as Itsuki, but he makes up for that with snark. Tons and tons of snark. And that's never a bad thing.

Well, it's either that, or Nagaru Tanigawa is desperate for ideas. Instead of going along with the story so far, the tenth novel will actually be about how Kyon drank a ~love~ potion or is under some gimmicky spell. Now every girl in the city has a thing for him! How wacky and/or zany!

Kogetsu Shirogane 2009-08-26 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivify93 (Post 2606763)
Spoiler for spoilers for the novels, but it's really minor:

Spoiler for same novel... sorta:

yezhanquan 2009-08-26 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by wittyusername (Post 2606784)
...You're not one to mince words, are you?



Since when is this a problem in ero doujin?



Despite what he says about himself, Kyon is pretty cute. He's not necessarily as pretty as Itsuki, but he makes up for that with snark. Tons and tons of snark. And that's never a bad thing.

Well, it's either that, or Nagaru Tanigawa is desperate for ideas. Instead of going along with the story so far, the tenth novel will actually be about how Kyon drank a ~love~ potion or is under some gimmicky spell. Now every girl in the city has a thing for him! How wacky and/or zany!

I mean: come on! Does he have pimples? No. Is any part of his face strange? No. He already looks better than 80% of the people in his age group.

OkamiNoKaze 2009-08-26 19:53

Does anybody think if Kyon were to wear a trench coat he'd look like the most recent Doctor or Doctor Who?

Simplicity 2009-08-26 19:55

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Originally Posted by yezhanquan (Post 2606906)
I mean: come on! Does he have pimples? No. Is any part of his face strange? No. He already looks better than 80% of the people in his age group.

I thought that's just because anime characters aren't typically drawn with pimples. Anyway, Kyon's pretty average-looking in my book...simple brown haircut, average height (for an Asian male I believe), etc. His charm to me mostly comes from his delightfully snarky personality.

yezhanquan 2009-08-26 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 2606929)
I thought that's just because anime characters aren't typically drawn with pimples. Anyway, Kyon's pretty average-looking in my book...simple brown haircut, average height (for an Asian male I believe), etc. His charm to me mostly comes from his delightfully snarky personality.

He's intended to be average all the way. Even his initial snarking is average. (You're up against Haruhi. You have to snark to preserve your sanity.) But, probe a bit deeper, and this guy will expose himself.


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