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roriconfan 2010-04-11 17:24

The least hated kind of ending
 
Most anime adapted from manga donít cover the entire story before ending. What kind of ending do you find the least hated from the choices I mention or any other you can think of?

1) An original but rushed and probably silly ending
That is, they divert from the manga and end the story in a few episodes (examples: Gantz, Claymore, Soul Eater, the first FMA)
-The good part: It ends
-The bad part: It leaves the rest of the story out and even makes it impossible to continue later on

2) Fillers, fillers, fillers
Simply said, storyless episodes until the series is canceled (examples: Rurouni Kenshin, the first Inu Yasha)
-The good part: Keeps you watching your favorite series
-The bad part: Nothing happens

3) Cut right in the action
That is, stopped while the story was still going smoothly (example: D.Gray Man)
-The good part: Keeps you yearning for a sequel or head for the manga
-The bad part: The worst part to stop!

4) Other
UmÖ Not one of the above

Archon_Wing 2010-04-11 17:29

Least Hated:
Number 1, that seems to be the least disruptive for me. Though yes, it'll take some work if there's a continuation.
Most hated:
Oh god, most certainly Fillers. A slow and painful death is not the way to go. And yes, I'm wondering if some shows would just fucking end...

Marcus H. 2010-04-11 19:55

You should make this into a poll, roriconfan. :)

As for my choice, neither. Most of the time, I do not identify the anime series using its source. And so, I usually just expect things to change a bit, but not in a drastic manner (Railgun is out of the question because it has a source of its own).

But if I would choose, it's (1). Well, silly might not be the perfect term for that, but there are original endings that work well like in Suzuka.

Socke 2010-04-11 20:26

You forgot to mention School Days. Yes people do loves that shit so much...

Marcus H. 2010-04-11 21:53

That's not original lol. School Days just have lots of endings and they decided to go for the bloodfest.

james0246 2010-04-12 01:02

Since many anime are adapted from other source material, I do not mind option # 1. Specifically, adaptations do not have to be word for word, they need only reflect central themes and ideas from the original source. Consequently, if entirely different story conclusions are present within the different mediums, but the character conclusions are, more or less, similar, then I really do not mind that the story has changed, or even if sequels are impossible...

That being said, 2 and 3 are awful choices. 2 because it makes you bored with the characters; and 3 because I do not want to be forced to buy other material (either tell me the story or don't, but do not start a story then finish it elsewhere).

roriconfan 2010-04-12 01:14

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Originally Posted by Archon_Wing (Post 2999018)
Most hated:
Oh god, most certainly Fillers. A slow and painful death is not the way to go. And yes, I'm wondering if some shows would just fucking end...

Oh, but what about all the money the company would lose from not milking you this way? :D
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus H. (Post 2999173)
You should make this into a poll, roriconfan. :)

Nah, I left it open so all types are mentioned in posts. It is not really an absolute choice.
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Originally Posted by Socke (Post 2999212)
You forgot to mention School Days. Yes people do loves that shit so much...

I wonder if "Nice Boat" counts as an option...

Darklord_bg 2010-04-12 07:34

I would say none of those. Here are a couple of more options to your list.

4) Seasons with gaps between them (i.e. instead of fillers, you just stop the show)
Pros: The story keeps going following the source perfectly and each season ends at an appropriate place
Cons: You have to wait for the new season to come out

5) Wait for the manga/source to be finished, or almost finished before doing an anime. (Example: FMA Brotherhood)
Pros: You have the complete story and the original ending from the source material
Cons: It might take a long time for the manga to finish and if you follow the manga, you might not want to watch the anime if you know the ending already.

roriconfan 2010-04-12 11:24

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Originally Posted by Darklord_bg (Post 2999885)
I would say none of those. Here are a couple of more options to your list.

4) Seasons with gaps between them (i.e. instead of fillers, you just stop the show)
Pros: The story keeps going following the source perfectly and each season ends at an appropriate place
Cons: You have to wait for the new season to come out

5) Wait for the manga/source to be finished, or almost finished before doing an anime. (Example: FMA Brotherhood)
Pros: You have the complete story and the original ending from the source material
Cons: It might take a long time for the manga to finish and if you follow the manga, you might not want to watch the anime if you know the ending already.

Don't both of these options count as sequels and not as early endings?

KholdStare 2010-04-12 12:26

Least hated...I'm not sure I have a solid preference, but I like one of the two below:

1) It ends. It doesn't matter if it's an original ending or modified.
2) It stops without dragging on the story (ie. no fillers).

One of the better endings where the manga is still ongoing is Inuyasha, the first season. It did drag out the story near the end, but the important thing is it ended in a sort of cliffhanger, but it was feel-good ending. At least, it made me felt like Inuyasha was worth watching and I will look forward to when they will continue it.

And that means I disagree that Inuyasha falls into #2 as described in the first post. That's because some of the best episodes in Inuyasha (first season) falls near its end (ie. episode 163). I might even go as far as to compare Inuyasha with Cardcaptor Sakura, where fillers were present, but they do not bore me, or make me think that they were fillers at all. Rurouni Kenshin was different. After episode 63, I could not watch any more of it since I can immediately see it will go nowhere.

roriconfan 2010-04-12 12:35

Fillers are fillers like them or not. And Inuyasha is definitely in that category. I can even say that the rest of the show after the first third is nothing but fillers.

Darklord_bg 2010-04-12 12:47

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Originally Posted by roriconfan (Post 3000110)
Don't both of these options count as sequels and not as early endings?

Well, 5) is definitely not a sequel, since it involves the whole story being told at one go.

4) involves sequels indeed, but I prefer it to the fillers option - instead of putting fillers in the show, they should just stop the show for a time and restart it after the source material has gotten ahead.

roriconfan 2010-04-12 13:55

Ι mention on the first post that I was talking about anime that end BEFORE the manga is finished. That makes 5 invalid. Plus, it is really rare to see an anime being made after the manga is over. Most that follow that are in fact remakes of an older version.

As for 4, you admit yourself it is not relevant to the topic. But I do prefer that myself.

Zu Ra 2010-04-12 16:01

If it an anime original show without GN or Manga backing. Then an open ending otherwise choice 3)

Archon_Wing 2010-04-12 16:13

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Originally Posted by roriconfan (Post 2999528)
Oh, but what about all the money the company would lose from not milking you this way? :D

I know.then they'd have to ...try! God forbid anyone do that these days. ;)

But yea, the only thing I can think about when I hear filler is irrelevant things that help us understand nothing and also crappy low budget animation. Don't you love it when several scenes have 5 frames between them? I always thought anime meant animation (moving pictures) but guess I was wrong. :heh:

Guernsey 2010-04-12 23:21

What about the Kill 'Em ending seen in shows like Gundam? People sort of expect thise nowadays.

roriconfan 2010-04-13 02:00

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Originally Posted by Guernsey (Post 3001006)
What about the Kill 'Em ending seen in shows like Gundam? People sort of expect thise nowadays.

Isn't that option 1?

Darklord_bg 2010-04-13 02:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by roriconfan (Post 3001144)
Isn't that option 1?

Kind of...

The original Gundam was cut short due to budgetary reasons, so Tomino had to wrap it up. The ending seemed a little rushed, but it was still a good satisfactory ending to a good show.

As for the "Kill them all"
Spoiler:


I'm not sure if Gundam shows fall in any of those categories though, since it's not a source material vs. anime adaptation conflict. but more like an "author's original intention" vs. "execution" thing. They are similar, but not quite the same.

roriconfan 2010-04-13 04:21

Let's leave out any more Gundam examples, as they are not based on manga and we definitely have no idea what were the writer's original intentions. If you ask me, a "kill'em all" trope is nothing but a cheap method to take out all characters and side stories you have no time or idea of what to do with them. It works but it is still cheap, especially when it happens en masse.

Socke 2010-04-13 06:42

How about the bittersweet one? I think there's already topic on that.


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