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Kyuu 2010-09-07 02:19

Saimoe Champions Thread
 
Oh, figured to make this thread here - since many of you are frequent trackers of the three existing Saimoe formatted tournaments.

Listed are the finalists. Champions listed first. Names in red bold are multiple title holders. Names in bold are multiple finalists.

Anime Saimoe Tournament
2002 Sakura Kinomoto; Ayumu Kasuga
2003 Riku Harada; Motoko Hara
2004 Rosemary Applefield; Nadja Applefield
2005 Nanoha Takamachi; Souseiseki
2006 Suiseiseki; Fate Testarossa
2007 Rika Furude; Nagi Sanzenin
2008 Kagami Hiiragi; Tsukasa Hiiragi
2009 Taiga Aisaka; Yui Hirasawa
2010

Best Moe
2006 Suiseiseki; Eri Sawachika
2007 Hinagiku Katsura; Shana
2008 Holo; Kyou Fujibayashi
2009 Aisaka Taiga; Kagami Hiiragi
2010

ISML
2008 Fate Testarossa; Yuki Nagato
2009 Hinagiku Katsura; Shana
2010

Source: http://www.internationalsaimoe.com/statistics/

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As for this Wiki article, it'll be acceptable to covert the article to include all three, with Final 8 tables for all three:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saimoe

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Interesting things to note:
  • Six characters have appeared in a finals twice, with three of them holding 2 titles in combination of two of the tournaments
  • Hinagiku vs Shana finals twice

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Yet, here are some interesting questions:

Single character:
  • Character with most wins (single tournament)
  • Character with most wins (combined)
  • Character with most tournament appearances

Anime series:
  • Series with most wins (single tournment)
  • Series with most wins (combined)
  • Series with most character appearances

(to be expanded)

Kudryavka 2010-09-07 02:34

You gonna cover the other Moe tourneys too?

Kyuu 2010-09-07 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Komari (Post 3232781)
You gonna cover the other Moe tourneys too?

Why not? In the general scope of things, they're all the same basic concept. Just handled differently among one another.

Kudryavka 2010-09-07 02:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyuuA4 (Post 3232785)
Why not? In the general scope of things, they're all the same basic concept. Just handled differently among one another.

No, I mean are you gonna do the other ones, other than those three? Like Best?

Kyuu 2010-09-07 02:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Komari (Post 3232788)
No, I mean are you gonna do the other ones, other than those three? Like Best?

You mean, there's more than these three? These three are of particular interest as they are held annually with a strong set of rules to follow. In a sense, these are... the "majors".

RJ TAYLER 2010-09-07 05:06

I've noticed in the Japanese version in particular that 'family ties' tend to bind a champion too. The Applefields in 2004, The Hiragi Twins in 2008, The Rozen Maiden sisters 2005-07 and the Nanoha/Fate couple as well.

Zeroryoko1974 2010-09-07 06:00

I think there is a Chinese saimoe, a manga saimoe and others. But there isn't as much info on those. I think I recall a trap saimoe once. And of course there was the ill fated Sai Gar to determine the manliest anime character. But 4chan was involved with that, so it was doomed from the start

frustra 2010-09-07 06:10

I actually have most of them covered here and here, but yeah.

Kyuu 2010-09-07 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by frustra (Post 3232959)
I actually have most of them covered here and here, but yeah.

Awesome. :D

FYI, you do good work with this stuff. Keep it up, man.

HitoriTomoyo 2010-09-08 01:41

Shana's good at winning silvers in non-necklace rounds. =/

I'm confident she has a VERY strong chance of winning this year's ISML Tiara (considering the momentum she's riding), but if Mio isn't the one going to stop her, then I sort of fear for Shana when she has to inevitably face Hinagiku again.

Kyuu 2010-09-09 16:12

Taiga goes into the Losers Bracket. No way she's gonna get the Triple Crown then.

Zeroryoko1974 2010-09-09 16:30

Mio has a chance :D

KholdStare 2010-09-09 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by HitoriTomoyo (Post 3234372)
...but if Mio isn't the one going to stop her, then I sort of fear for Shana when she has to inevitably face Hinagiku again.

If Shana faces Hinagiku again, regardless of strength, I'd say Shana has a 95% chance of winning. Hinagiku already beat Shana twice in DE so there will be resentment movements.

As for those "interesting questions," I have the excel files for all the brackets you see in ISML's Statistics page, if any should request them.

hinakatbklyn 2010-09-09 16:56

Let's see if Mio can start winning in J-Saimoe first. She's doing well in the other 2 at the moment.
Mikoto could put herself in serious contention for a triple crown if she pulls an upset against Shana in ISML in addition to her other matches.

HitoriTomoyo 2010-09-09 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by KholdStare (Post 3237023)
If Shana faces Hinagiku again, regardless of strength, I'd say Shana has a 95% chance of winning. Hinagiku already beat Shana twice in DE so there will be resentment movements.

Sounds believable, especially when coupled with the fact that voters may want to see a new face win moreso than see one character win the same title twice.

...on the other hand, given that Shana had recently been successful in defending a necklace title (and followed that up with another necklace win) as well as the fact that Hinagiku has ALWAYS beaten Shana in the moments that REALLY count, I'm partially preparing myself for their match-up.

Though that may be put to a stop if Tomoyo wins her match tonight. =/

Kyuu 2010-09-10 05:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by KholdStare (Post 3237023)
If Shana faces Hinagiku again, regardless of strength, I'd say Shana has a 95% chance of winning. Hinagiku already beat Shana twice in DE so there will be resentment movements.

As for those "interesting questions," I have the excel files for all the brackets you see in ISML's Statistics page, if any should request them.

Is any of that data put into a database, per chance?

KholdStare 2010-09-11 14:44

@KyuuA4: I suggest keeping the 3 separate Saimoe articles for now, and make http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saimoe link to a general article (instead of redirect to AST) describing what saimoe is and maybe a brief history of the main tournaments, with links to the 3 Saimoe articles.

The data isn't put into a database, it's a nice reference since you can do a search to find matches:

http://piclair.com/data/sjyfl.jpg

Let me finish compiling it and send upload them for those interested.


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