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Roger Rambo 2010-11-13 07:25

Battle: Los Angeles
 


Aliens invade Los Angeles and it's up to the MARINES to stop them.


After the cluster fuck that was Terminator Salvation, and the not really a clusterfuck but not really focused on war Dances with Smurfs, it's good to see a sci-fi war movie.

LoweGear 2010-11-13 07:46

While there have been many movies featuring the (US) military vs aliens, this is probably one of the few, if not the first in my experience that totally looks at the grunt angle of the battle on the ground-pounding frontlines. And this time it's US Marines vs aliens, not Space Marines :heh:

Totally on my list of must-see movies next year. :nod:

-Sho- 2010-11-13 07:55

Therer are so much movies like that these days , not that i'm complaining , on the contrary i like those kind of movies ! Apocalyspe now :D
The trailer looks awesome with the bgm.
So it doesn't only happens in Los Angeles but the movie will focus there.
My first opinion was : Terminator Alien? :p

sa547 2010-11-13 09:10

I'm sold on this one. This one's far grittier than Independence Day, and just possibly as terrifying as Aliens. :D

Renegade334 2010-11-13 12:44

...Oh, yeah. I might actually go and watch this one...and that's coming from someone who seldom goes to the theaters nowadays. :p
BTW, were those biomechanical aliens? That's a welcome change from all those extraterrestrials going commando in our (potentially) biologically hostile world...the humanoid design kind of reminds me of Crysis 2 (vaguely, I must amend), truth be said.

...Strangely, I am not really surprised to see Michelle Rodriguez in this film. XD

Kaijo 2010-11-13 14:52

Looks interesting.

The main thing all these "Aliens invade earth!" movies miss, is that they can simply drop rocks from the sky and destroy all of Earth's infrastructure. They don't need to land or even come into our atmosphere, until everything is rubble. Of course, that's assuming they don't have better weapons they could use from orbit.

So the meteor parts in the trailer look decent enough.

Renegade334 2010-11-13 15:33

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Originally Posted by Kaijo (Post 3344636)
The main thing all these "Aliens invade earth!" movies miss, is that they can simply drop rocks from the sky and destroy all of Earth's infrastructure. They don't need to land or even come into our atmosphere, until everything is rubble. Of course, that's assuming they don't have better weapons they could use from orbit.

...Provided they don't care about the landscape, the resources therein or human infrastructure (for future study, out of mere curiosity). One also needs to consider whether they have WMDs along with them if they're a migrating species or just wish to conquer Humanity's homeworld to assert their superiority in the galaxy - and how powerful it is. They might actually be reluctant to irradiate or sterilize the place they intend to live in...

Anyway, we'll have to wait for the movie to see how exactly they're carrying out the assault, if they did something preemptive (like zapping out all comm. satellites out of orbit) to destabilize our civilization or if they are just content with their rendition of the D-Day landing, preceded by Shock & Awe-type surgical air strikes to prepare the terrain.

NorthernFallout 2010-11-13 15:50

Carefully optimistic. As usual I love the concept, but it usually devolves into "OMG VISUALS! POPCORN BLOCKBUSTER" like most Hollywood action/military/apoc movies. Not that it's a bad thing, but... Yea. If user reviews gets better than Skyline, I'm in.

Roger Rambo 2010-11-13 16:08

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Originally Posted by Renegade334 (Post 3344680)
...Provided they don't care about the landscape, the resources therein or human infrastructure (for future study, out of mere curiosity). One also needs to consider whether they have WMDs along with them if they're a migrating species or just wish to conquer Humanity's homeworld to assert their superiority in the galaxy - and how powerful it is. They might actually be reluctant to irradiate or sterilize the place they intend to live in...

Tactical colony drops don't produce radiation.

And you're not really preserving the local infer structure much better after having thousands of ground troops fighting over it with heavy weapons.

GN0010 Nosferatu 2010-11-13 16:40

I've been waiting for this trailer for a LONG LONG time. Needless to say I'm impressed and pumped up. :D

Can't wait to see it.

Renegade334 2010-11-13 17:10

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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo (Post 3344706)
Tactical colony drops don't produce radiation.

And you're not really preserving the local infer structure much better after having thousands of ground troops fighting over it with heavy weapons.

Depends on what kind of weaponry they're using - for my previous argument, I wasn't exactly thinking about humongous "rods from god" but alternatives like hypothetical beam weapons (think Halo-style planet glassing) or nuclear warheads (or something that could produce particle burst or toxic fallouts upon use - and therefore contaminate the environment on a scale large enough to make you wonder whether the end result justified the means).

I wonder...what's bound to create more destruction and damage the said infrastructure - a massive colony drop whose impact and surface shockwaves can make everything collapse or turn to shrapnel in a wide radius...or the use of ground troops that can actually clear buildings in a relatively meticulous fashion? We don't even know if they have anything as big to throw at us (a nearby asteroid towed towards Earth's immediate vicinity for this very purpose) or if they can afford using one of their own space vessels for the orbital bombardment.

LMF 2010-11-13 17:12

Worth watching.

Roger Rambo 2010-11-13 18:41

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Originally Posted by Renegade334 (Post 3344764)
I wonder...what's bound to create more destruction and damage the said infrastructure - a massive colony drop whose impact and surface shockwaves can make everything collapse or turn to shrapnel in a wide radius...or the use of ground troops that can actually clear buildings in a relatively meticulous fashion?

Won't be as bad as a colony drop, but if your ground troops run into any serious and dug in opposition, the objective of keep the city relatively intact pretty much goes right out the window.

Most militaries don't deal with heavily fortified hostile buildings by sending infantry into it to clear it room to room. Their usual response if they know it's heavily fortified is to blast it to hell with artillery and air strikes in coordination and support of infantry attacks. Those infantry assault troops will often use indiscriminate weapons themselves, like rockets and demolition charges.

Pretty soon that city you wanted intact isn't looking to hot.
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2900/groznycity.png


But what the hell. This movie looks awesome.

GundamFan0083 2010-11-13 18:57

I heard about this film awhile back.
Looks really good.

Supposedly it is loosely based on actual events (though not an alien invasion) of the 1942 Battle of Los Angeles.

BTW, thank you for the trailer Roger Rambo it is much appreciated. :)

GN0010 Nosferatu 2010-11-13 19:10

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Originally Posted by GundamFan0083 (Post 3344879)
I heard about this film awhile back.
Looks really good.


Supposedly it is loosely based on actual events (though not an alien invasion) of the 1942 Battle of Los Angeles.

BTW, thank you for the trailer Roger Rambo it is much appreciated. :)

I think the film was announced back in early 2008, and the trailer is barely released today.

Talk about a long wait eh?:heh:

GundamFan0083 2010-11-13 19:18

No kidding, but by the looks of the trailer it may have been well worth it. :)

GN0010 Nosferatu 2010-11-13 20:57

So I paused the trailer at 1:47, and got a nice glimpse of invaders themselves. They kinda look like a machine wrapped up in flesh, techno organic if you will.

Kaijo 2010-11-14 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade334 (Post 3344680)
...Provided they don't care about the landscape, the resources therein or human infrastructure (for future study, out of mere curiosity). One also needs to consider whether they have WMDs along with them if they're a migrating species or just wish to conquer Humanity's homeworld to assert their superiority in the galaxy - and how powerful it is. They might actually be reluctant to irradiate or sterilize the place they intend to live in...

Anyway, we'll have to wait for the movie to see how exactly they're carrying out the assault, if they did something preemptive (like zapping out all comm. satellites out of orbit) to destabilize our civilization or if they are just content with their rendition of the D-Day landing, preceded by Shock & Awe-type surgical air strikes to prepare the terrain.

It all depends on what aliens want Earth for.

Raw resources - we have quite a few, but nothing that can't be gained elsewhere. Hell, mining the asteroid belt would provide more. Dropping rocks on Earth is a nice way to reduce the human population and render it not a threat, thus allowing access to our resources.

Water - We have plenty, but again, you can get water elsewhere

A place to live - One of the more viable reasons for aliens invading, although that would mean the aliens are similar to us biologically speaking, which are fairly long odds. Dropping rocks gets most of the humans out of the way, and you can build up your infrastructure mostly unopposed then.

Food - Assuming they want to munch on our flora and fauna (and possibly us), dropping rocks wouldn't be too great an idea, but you could still land a few on the major threat areas, and leave plenty of wildlife and humans around. Humanity can also breed like rabbits, so we'll populate once again, providing a steady food supply.

Assholes - we got unlucky and the aliens are just douchebags, killing us off for fun, and to make sure we never grow up to be an intergalactic threat. Actually probably the most plausible reason for alien invasion. It's often been speculated that an alien species might decide to just wipe out other intelligent life so they'd be the only game in town; thus acting pretty much like gods.

In most cases, aliens can get what they need elsewhere; Earth provides very little, other than real estate and perhaps food. But it's fairly long odds of a species being close enough to us that would need either of those things.

Roger Rambo 2010-11-16 19:11

Neat interactive map.

Assuming those are alien landing zones...we're pretty screwed.

justinstrife 2010-11-16 22:02

I'll catch it in theaters. Looks decent enough.


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