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Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 18:54
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Posted By loctar87
Look, if you ask the question "Are Shannon and...

Look, if you ask the question "Are Shannon and Kanon different people?" (i.e. are they 2 people or 1 person), the answer is going to depend on how you define what a person is. There is definitely...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 18:36
Replies: 35,325
Views: 2,925,114
Posted By loctar87
Well, I wouldn't so far as to say that Darth...

Well, I wouldn't so far as to say that Darth Vader betrayed and murdered your father.The red truth is objective. When Battler tried to say he was Asumu's son with the red, he failed. So subjective...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 18:23
Replies: 35,325
Views: 2,925,114
Posted By loctar87
Like I said, you can count Kanon and Shannon as 2...

Like I said, you can count Kanon and Shannon as 2 people or you can count them as one. Your complaint seems to be "But I can't count them as 1 and 2 at the same time!", which makes absolutely no...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 18:09
Replies: 35,325
Views: 2,925,114
Posted By loctar87
This game has repeatedly emphasized that multiple...

This game has repeatedly emphasized that multiple truths can exist at the same time. Remember Erika's speech when she thought she had cornered Beato at the end of Ep6? While any one truth may be...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 17:52
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Views: 2,925,114
Posted By loctar87
It just depends on your point of view. You can...

It just depends on your point of view. You can count Shannon and Kanon separately, or you can count them as one person.
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 17:35
Replies: 35,325
Views: 2,925,114
Posted By loctar87
If you think of Erika as a piece on the gameboard...

If you think of Erika as a piece on the gameboard separate from meta-Erika, then I don't think you have any choice but to accept that it's random murders. There are many reasons why she might have...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 17:05
Replies: 35,325
Views: 2,925,114
Posted By loctar87
Um, it was confirmed with the red truth that...

Um, it was confirmed with the red truth that Erika killed them. If you're going to look at it from that angle, isn't suspicious that a random person landed on the island at all?
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 16:54
Replies: 35,325
Views: 2,925,114
Posted By loctar87
Regarding the long post about Jessica being the...

Regarding the long post about Jessica being the other Battler. There is a red truth in the way of your theory: All people can only use their own names!! You're trying to get around this with "kun"...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 15:52
Replies: 35,325
Views: 2,925,114
Posted By loctar87
I noticed this line too. If you were to take it...

I noticed this line too. If you were to take it seriously, it could suggest that Lambda is Bern's furniture. I don't think Bern could have multiple personalities like Yasu, but Lambda could be...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 15:06
Replies: 35,325
Views: 2,925,114
Posted By loctar87
Yeah...I couldn't really think of good reason for...

Yeah...I couldn't really think of good reason for her to switch to Shannon at that point that made any sense. A better explanation is that she changes from Kanon to Yasu/Beato at that point. ...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 10:50
Replies: 35,325
Views: 2,925,114
Posted By loctar87
Sure, I can come up with crazy theories, if you...

Sure, I can come up with crazy theories, if you really want me to.

It's the construction of the real first twilight! Shannon probably didn't know Erika really killed them, so she wanted to make...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-24, 01:18
Replies: 35,325
Views: 2,925,114
Posted By loctar87
Wait, the final riddle of ep6? Isn't this easy...

Wait, the final riddle of ep6? Isn't this easy with the Shkannontrice theory? Shannon escapes from window, becomes Kanon, saves Battler, hides in closet, then while in closet he becomes Shannon. ...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-22, 22:36
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
I think that you can smudge the red truth enough...

I think that you can smudge the red truth enough to get around that. But let's say you're right. In that case, it's just somewhere else in Shannon's room. Your only objection there is that it's...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-22, 22:15
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
Then maybe the Kanon outfit is already in the...

Then maybe the Kanon outfit is already in the chapel with the key. That also works. The chapel isn't someplace the relatives are likely to go unless they are directed there.
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-22, 22:08
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
Even if you interpret it as #2, Shannon simply...

Even if you interpret it as #2, Shannon simply hid the 2nd key somewhere else in the room. When everyone leaves, she retrieves the key, becomes Kanon, and puts the key in her pocket. That satisfies...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-22, 10:16
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
Yasu isn't the "real" one. Ever since Yasu...

Yasu isn't the "real" one. Ever since Yasu decided to live in fantasy as the witch, there never has been a "real" one. Lion is suffering from the ultimate identity crisis. To cope with reality she...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-22, 01:03
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
They aren't imaginary friends, they're different...

They aren't imaginary friends, they're different roles. It's like a play where Yasu is the director and all the actors. "Shannon" wants to live in the real world, so Beatrice and Gaap aren't people...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-22, 00:34
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
Most days they probably wouldn't both be on the...

Most days they probably wouldn't both be on the island. As long as Genji played along, it probably wouldn't be impossible. And aside from Shannon's loneliness, this is someone who gets a great deal...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-22, 00:18
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
People can be quite lonely even when they are...

People can be quite lonely even when they are around other people. Kanon was someone who could truly be close to her. Yasu needed Shannon, even if she had Gapp. It's the same from Shannon needing...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-21, 23:58
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
Shannon needed someone to keep from being lonely....

Shannon needed someone to keep from being lonely. That's why he was created. As for why Kanon was brought into the real world, it's not like Shannon is any different from Kanon. One isn't more...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-21, 21:32
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
That's true, but they've never been used in...

That's true, but they've never been used in beato's stories, so we don't know they apply. Beato's stories seem to violate rules 16 and 20.

16. A detective novel should contain no long descriptive...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-21, 21:13
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
Starve while demanding the fair, and die. ...

Starve while demanding the fair, and die.

Edit: Not you personally.
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-21, 20:49
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
There's nothing to indicate that any of Beato's...

There's nothing to indicate that any of Beato's stories follow Dine. The one time Will tried it against Bern, it did absolutely nothing. Even then, it was "the truth" he was fighting against, not...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-20, 21:29
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
In addition to Shannon and Kanon, he didn't look...

In addition to Shannon and Kanon, he didn't look at Eva and Hideyoshi's corpses in Ep1. But anyways, Kinzo is dead at the starting times for all games. It's guaranteed in red, and even if you call...
Forum: Umineko 2010-12-20, 21:10
Replies: 3,726
Views: 385,032
Posted By loctar87
In Ep5, Battle was guaranteed in red to be the...

In Ep5, Battle was guaranteed in red to be the detective of the previous 4 games. However, that's not necessarily the same as the detective's authority. He definitely has an objective view point,...
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