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Old 2007-09-29, 09:05   Link #271
hipeach
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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh View Post
No, it's not. They're maybe a bit more zealous in not releasing than Theresa (but not than Raphaela) and, more importantly, they spent years not releasing, so as to erase all remaining traces of youki, but that's all.

No. What they did is train themselves to use their bodies to their physical limits. Whereas before, they used youki for a temporary boost, like, say, an adrenaline surge, in addition to their hybrid bodies, they now use only their bodies.

There is no difference. The only difference is the reasons they don't use their youki. Theresa didn't use it because she didn't need it, Raphaela because of her psychological scars, and the Lucky 7 because they need the stealth.

No, even without using the youki, they remain half-youma. Their physiology is totally different, and that's what gives them strength. Just look at Miata or even Clarice on pills. They accomplish physical feats they should not be able to, if they were human.
Maybe you should read the manga more carefully, the manga explicitly states that those protagonists are using some completely new techniques, which means no claymore has used it before.

Raphaela can conceal her demon power presence very well, but when she fights, her demon power can still be felt. There IS a BIG difference between concealing your demon power presence when you are not fighting, and no demon power at all when you are pulling off high-speed sword.

No active release doesn't mean no demon power, it's just that their demon power are at a low daily level, not actively increased to a high combat level. But for the protagonists now, even a powerful AO cannot detect ANY demon power when they attack her! It means they are not using any demon power at all.

Even with pills, they only completely conceal their demon power when they are not fighting. When they try to perform those super human feats, their demon power are still felt, means they still reach some low demon power level. The no demon power at all stuff is a completely new concept, and that's what the manga has confirmed.


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Precisely. Those "great warriors of the Church" are about as strong as he can hope to become. And they were next to useless.

If he wants to be useful, he'll have to find some other way.
There's absolutely no rules at all in the manga saying that those "great warrors of the Church" are at the upper limit of human potential. Not to mention there are many previous rules-breaking events happened in the manga anyway. And getting lived together and trained by powerful AOs may very well be this "other way", I'm sure those Church Knights lack this kind of experience

Like I said, as far as I can see, the possibility of a human mastering swordsmanship or martial arts in Claymore well enough to beat demons is still open, and that won't even break any consistency in Claymore universe (at least no more than past events that have occurred already).
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