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2009-06-11, 16:08	Link #1227
Marion The Great Dine Join Date: Feb 2009	After going through each episode I have made a chart on Twilights and frequencies. Spoiler for Twilight 1: Episode 1: Rosa, Kyrie, Rudolf, Krauss, Shannon, Gohda Episode 2: Krauss, Natsuhi, Kyrie, Rudolf, Eva, Hideyoshi Episode 3: Kinzo, Shannon, Kanon, Gohda, Kumasawa, Genji Episode 4: Rosa, Rudolf, Natsuhi, Eva, Hideyoshi, Genji "You shall lift up as sacrifice the six chosen by the key." Based on these tallies everyone excluding the four cousins and Nanjo has died at least once in the 1st twilight. Out of these 13 Kinzo and Kumasawa have died the least in the 1st twilight, both only dying once in it, and Rudolf has died 3 out of 4 twilights. Everyone else on the list has died 2 times in the first twilight. Notes: -Kyrie and Krauss have so far died together in the 1st twilight. When one dies the other dies, as noted in EP 1 and 2. Consequentially, when one survives the other does too. This is the same case for Eva and Hideyoshi, as seen in EP 1 and 3. -Despite being dead at the start of each situation 'Kinzo' died in the 1st twilight of EP 3. Spoiler for Twilight 2: Episode 1: Eva and Hideyoshi Episode 2: Kanon and Jessica Episode 3: Rosa and Maria Episode 4: George and Jessica "Those who remain shall tear apart the two who are close." The 2nd twilight is defined as killing two who are close. Now close can be used in different definitions in this case. It can be considered to be lovers dying together, in the cases of EP 1, 2 and 3, but as seen in EP 4 George and Jessica died in this twilight, despite having no romantic relationship with one another. Out of all characters Jessica has died the most in this twilight, both in EP 2 and 4. Notes: -This is the first twilight in which one of the four cousins can actually die. -Maria dies for the 1st time in any four question arcs during this twilight. -Despite the fact that they weren't technically near each other when dying George and Jessica share this twilight. -This is the first time Kanon's body vanished and was unable to be found. We are only confirmed his death in red. -Another Kanon reappeared later after dying in EP 2, wounded in the same way Kanon was in the 2nd twilight. Spoiler for Twilight 4: Episode 1: Kinzo Episode 2: Shannon Episode 3: Rudolf Episode 4: ??? (Kanon, Shannon, Nanjo, Krauss or Kyrie) "Gouge the Head and Kill" Notes: -Despite being dead at the start of each situation 'Kinzo' died during this twilight. His body was found only after everyone found Kanon dead in the boiler room, yet he is still considered the 4th twilight. He also disappeared from his room beforehand. -According to what we see in the game, Shannon dies before Gohda and is killed alongside George, yet she is considered the 4th twilight. -Rudolf's face was completely torn off, despite the game showing us that he was stabbed through the heart. No wound of this manner was found on his body either. -According to what we see in the game Kanon is killed first after trying to escape the well, yet his head was not gouged as in accordance with the epitaph. -Due to the nature of all wounds between Kanon, Shannon, Nanjo, Krauss and Kyrie there is no technical way to infer who died first and on what specific twilight. Although stakes are by the body or in the wound there is no other type of visible gouging. Spoiler for Twilight 5: Episode 1: Kanon Episode 2: Gohda Episode 3: Hideyoshi Episode 4: ??? (Kanon, Shannon, Nanjo, Krauss or Kyrie) "Gouge the chest and kill" Notes: -Kanon pulled his stake out of the wound before dying -Gohda was seen dying before Shannon, yet is listed as dying after her. -According to what we are shown Hideyoshi dies after Kyrie and Rudolf, yet according to the twilights he dies before Kyrie and after Rudolf. -Due to the nature of all wounds between Kanon, Shannon, Nanjo, Krauss and Kyrie there is no technical way to infer who died first and on what specific twilight. Although stakes are by the body or in the wound there is no other type of visible gouging. Spoiler for Twilight 6: Episode 1: Genji Episode 2: George Episode 3: Kyrie Episode 4: ??? (Kanon, Shannon, Nanjo, Krauss or Kyrie) "Gouge the belly and kill" Notes: -Genji had his entire face torn off, along with the gouge wound. -This twilight is the first instance in which one of the four cousins is gouged with a stake. -Although George died at the same time Shannon did he was listed only dying a twilight after her. -Although in the game Kyrie died immediately after Rudolf, she is listed as only dying after Hideyoshi did. -Due to the nature of all wounds between Kanon, Shannon, Nanjo, Krauss and Kyrie there is no technical way to infer who died first and on what specific twilight. Although stakes are by the body or in the wound there is no other type of visible gouging. Spoiler for Twilight 7: Episode 1: Nanjo Episode 2: Nanjo Episode 3: Krauss Episode 4: ??? (Kanon, Shannon, Nanjo, Krauss or Kyrie) "Gouge the knee and kill" Notes -Nanjo commonly dies on this twilight. -According to the TIPs Krauss was gouged in his thigh, but it says to gouge the knee. -Krauss was apparently strangled to death, along with Natsuhi. -Due to the nature of all wounds between Kanon, Shannon, Nanjo, Krauss and Kyrie there is no technical way to infer who died first and on what specific twilight. Although stakes are by the body or in the wound there is no other type of visible gouging. Spoiler for Twilight 8: Episode 1: Kumasawa Episode 2: Kumasawa Episode 3: Natsuhi Episode 4: ??? (Kanon, Shannon, Nanjo, Krauss or Kyrie) "Gouge the ankle and kill" Notes -Kumasawa commonly dies on this twilight -According to the EP 2 she was killed by "Kanon" but her body was taken away, along with Nanjo. Her throat was cut and then only later was her body found gouged by Genji. -Natsuhi was apparently strangled to death, along with Krauss. It is most likely that the same person who killed Krauss also killed Natsuhi. -Due to the nature of all wounds between Kanon, Shannon, Nanjo, Krauss and Kyrie there is no technical way to infer who died first and on what specific twilight. Although stakes are by the body or in the wound there is no other type of visible gouging. Spoiler for Twilight 9: Episode 1: Natsuhi Episode 2: No one Episode 3: George, Nanjo, Battler Episode 4: Kumasawa, Gohda Revived: Beatrice "At the ninth twilight, the witch shall be revived and none shall be left alive." Notes: -Natsuhi's death was the second time golden butterflies appeared in EP 1, the first time being Kanon's death. -No one is listed as dying on the 9th twilight in EP 2. -This is the first time Battler is killed, rather than going missing. We are shown for the first time a human killing another human. -Although it cannot be said for sure when Maria, Kumasawa or Gohda died, according to the game it is after Kyrie's phone call to Battler. There is also no type of stake near them or in them either. Spoiler for Twilight 10: Episode 1: Battler, George, Jessica, Maria Episode 2: Battler, Kinzo, Genji, Rosa, Maria Episode 3: Jessica Episode 4: Battler, Maria "At the 10th twilight, the journey shall end and you should reach the village of gold." Notes: -Battler always goes missing, excluding EP 3 -When you view the TIPs of the missing people of the 10th twilight their bodies are always torned off and almost indistinguishable. -So far either groups of 4 or simply 1 person have gone missing. -Despite being dead at the start of each situation 'Kinzo' goes missing. -In EP 2 we are shown Beatrice opening the door to the Golden Land. -Maria dies on the 10th twilight, when usually people go missing on it (thanks for the correction Tjfarmer) Last edited by Marion; 2009-06-11 at 17:06.