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Jumper
2005-08-29, 05:34
What are the names of Yachiru's Shikai and Bankai (assuming she does have these)? just the names please =) no manga spoilers, thanks!

the names are still unkown in the Manga
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rtwesen
2005-08-29, 06:51
the names are still unkown in the Manga

ahh my bad. Thanks for the info!

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aznmastah
2005-08-31, 21:00

Um i didnt really understand this cause Rukia and Renji were born in a city in sould society. But isnt soul society where dead people go? So how come they werent brought up in the human world...wait...now im confusing myself (T_T)
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NoSanninWa
2005-08-31, 21:07
They were re-incarnated into Soul Society after dying in the human world.

Don't strain yourself too much over it. There are a few inconsistencies in his world creation, but this isn't really one of them. They probably just died when they were young so they appeared in Soul Society as youngsters.

If you want to discuss the topic any further, aspects of it are already discussed in several threads:
Soul Society ? (Anime ONLY, spoilers = BAN)
Death in Bleach (Beware SPOILER tags or cry)
[Manga] Aging in Soul Society (some spoilers)
[spoilers] Do Shinigami reproduce?
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aznmastah
2005-08-31, 21:16
Awww I cant look at these. I cant watch spoilers sniff sniff (T_T) Thanks though

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NoSanninWa
2005-08-31, 21:25
Awww I cant look at these. I cant watch spoilers sniff sniff (T_T) Thanks though

You should read more carefully. That's the reason this thread was created:
Soul Society ? (Anime ONLY, spoilers = BAN)
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The Small One
2005-09-01, 04:03
They were re-incarnated into Soul Society after dying in the human world.
Actually we have no information about this... it is indeed possible, that they were born into Soul Society.
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hi no ken Jebus
2005-09-01, 07:08
Actually we have no information about this... it is indeed possible, that they were born into Soul Society.

Actually you do, at least for rukia.

When byakuya is telling rukia about hisana. He mentions that after they died in the real world rukia was abandoned by hisana as an infant .
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Myname
2005-09-01, 18:41
Rukia died as a baby
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Souzouryoku
2005-09-01, 22:16
Rukia died as a baby

If you don't mind me asking, when is this all explained? Soon I hope?
{anime watcher}
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Zoe
2005-09-01, 22:46
If you don't mind me asking, when is this all explained? Soon I hope?
{anime watcher}

Not until the end of the arc.
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epileather
2005-09-01, 22:58
Is there romance involved in this Series? Or it's like Full metal Alchemist, no romance at all.
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NoSanninWa
2005-09-02, 03:41
Is there romance involved in this Series? Or it's like Full metal Alchemist, no romance at all.
There are hints of who like whom, but mostly there really isn't any romance.
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Myname
2005-09-02, 05:18
Ishida likes Orihime, Orihime likes Ichigo, Ichigo and Rukia are friends/possibly lovers, Renji likes Rukia, Rukia likes Kaien, Kira has a crush on Hinamori, Hinamori is obsessed with Aizen, Hitsuguya likes Hinamori, Matsumoto likes Gin, Gin saved her from stavation when they were kids, Urahara and Yoruichi most likely are a pair, I believe Chad has something for Karin, I also believe Hisagi has a crush on Hinamori, Shunsui and Nanao are like a married couple type of relationship, Nemu and Mayuri are.... (dont know about this one), Ganju hates Rukia, Hanatarou probably likes Rukia and thats about it.
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Souzouryoku
2005-09-03, 00:39
I've recently read up on all of the latest manga chapters, and am at the part where Rukia stays in the soul society. I feel stupid for asking, but that's not the end of her right

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Morisato
2005-09-03, 05:45
Most likely, she was useless anyways, if not her holding the thing in her body than someone else, she was nothing special.

PS. She is beyond weak, her power is pathetic
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hi no ken Jebus
2005-09-03, 13:55
I've recently read up on all of the latest manga chapters, and am at the part where Rukia stays in the soul society. I feel stupid for asking, but that's not the end of her right

As of now the focus seems to be on Ichigo and a possible 3 side war in the physical realm. Of course SS will show up eventually so I wouldn't be surprised if she shows up better than before.
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rtwesen
2005-09-04, 01:45
has Yachiru fought in the manga yet? Just a yes/no answer please, and approx. how long the fight was, thanks!
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Morisato
2005-09-04, 02:09
no........
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rtwesen
2005-09-04, 02:28
thanks alot!
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epileather
2005-09-04, 03:37
Thanks No and Myname
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F~Aura
2005-09-08, 00:13
Soul Society = Heaven?

Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but..

1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven?

2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear?

3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed?

any answers or guesses?
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jbruns
2005-09-08, 00:20
Soul Society = Heaven?

Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but..

1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven?

2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear?

3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed?

any answers or guesses?

No its not
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NoSanninWa
2005-09-08, 00:31
Soul Society = Heaven?

Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but..

1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven?

2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear?

3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed?

any answers or guesses?
In an early episode, Rukia said that Soul Society was better than Earth in 9 ways out of 10, so the deceased souls were going to a better place. It isn't Heaven. It's just an after life. I'm pretty sure that there is another thread on the subject of the nature of Soul Society. (Finding the thread will be left as an exercise for the student.) If you want to know more about Soul Society, ask there.

1. It is only supposed to be better than Earth, not perfect. (Though having seem SS, I have serious questions about how it is better.)

2. As for What happens to dead souls, they are re-incarnated as mortals on Earth. That subject ALSO has its own thread.

3. Spiritual bodies bleed spirtual blood. They can die also, so this shouldn't be too surprising.
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emessen
2005-09-08, 00:35
Soul Society = Heaven?

Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but..

1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven?

2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear?

3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed?

any answers or guesses?

I think it best that the Idea of heaven and hell, fundamentally Western teachings
not be brought up when discussing the Bleach anime that has it's own mythos loosely
based on eastern philosiphies.

But I think that some questions deserve some discussion.

1.) I dont recall Soul Society being claimed to be like heaven... as i recall during Chad's
introductory arc Rukia explains Soul Society to just be better than earth in the fact that you
dont get hungry. Only souls that have the ability to use spiritual powers get hungry
but all souls get thirsty. I found that amusing that Water the source of life is the source of
nourishment even for the dead.

2.) Again I think its best not to think that Soul Society = heaven... Perhaps its better to
think that it's more like The Underworld of Greek Mythology where all souls go to Hades
and either get sent to tarturus or the Elysian Fields... The Elysian Fields shouldnt be
interpretted as being Heaven either since it is part of Hades' Underworld Realm.
Just like how Soul Society has it's well off districts and not so well off districts
The Heavens in greek mythology are after all where the God's live. Anyway what
happens when spiritual beings are "killed" when in soul society? the best
explanation to that question is probably that they get sent back to Earth, or are
reborn. Soul Society relegates souls... and there has to be a balance between it
and Earth. i'm referring to that hourglass model during the Quincy Arc.

3.) This one is a very interesting question. and it begs discussion in my opinion. I will pose
this one question since we are talking about how can souls bleed. In some Christian
teachings Hell is a place of eternal torture or something to that extent where you or left
to your own misery... So i guess that begs the question... how does a soul suffer? how
does a spiritual being feel pain. Makes you wonder hmmm? My hypothesis is this
that souls are aware... that they have minds and by mind i dont mean brain but the ability
to think. Therefore since they are only bound by what they know prior to death, that
after death they are prone to relying on that knowledge. That when in death the
spiritual beings recreate what they know from Earth in order to keep exsisting as spirits

sounds odd and a lil buggy i'm sure... but i guess you could kind of think of it like the Matrix?
that souls need to grasp onto something they know that is tangible to them even if they
are not corporeal
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purplefeiying
2005-09-08, 02:18
wuu...wuu...

I scroll down the forum and it's all 'spoilers'...
wuu wuu... Basically, questions can't be answered without spiling the suspense rite? Guess I just hv to be patient & wait for de anime eps..
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deathsvengeance
2005-09-08, 03:38
I remember distinctly, Ichigo asked Rukia what soul society was, and she said it was like what humans think of as heaven.
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The Small One
2005-09-08, 03:41
1. It is only supposed to be better than Earth, not perfect. (Though having seem SS, I have serious questions about how it is better.)
No hollows... while the spirits, which stay on earth are constantly beeing threated by hollows, the souls in SS don't have to worry about this.
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deathsvengeance
2005-09-08, 03:46
No hollows... while the spirits, which stay on earth are constantly beeing threated by hollows, the souls in SS don't have to worry about this.
Or maybe they say it is "better" than earth because the ones saying that are Death Gods and they live inside the Court of Pure Souls and don't have to deal with the crap outside their precious walls. Only Death Gods like Rukia or Renji might understand that its not really better than earth at all, its just a place where they don't have to deal with hollows, but instead, they have to deal with Death Gods (whom most of the commoners seem to loathe).
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Mr. Johnny 5
2005-09-08, 06:12
Just learned to watch bleach the last few days...and to be honest i became awesome later on. I watched from 1-46..Anime but have some questions here.

Which Captain is the strongest? Does it go by order? 1-13th?
Hitsugaya is definetly the coolest and threatened Ichimaru...but...is he really stronger?

I mean are the other Captains aware of eachothers power?
The previous strong Captain that fought Ichigo...he enjoyed fighting strong persons...and didnt for that long..why didnt he fought some Captains? Like sparring..
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Wolcik
2005-09-08, 09:39
Just learned to watch bleach the last few days...and to be honest i became awesome later on. I watched from 1-46..Anime but have some questions here.

Which Captain is the strongest? Does it go by order? 1-13th?
Hitsugaya is definetly the coolest and threatened Ichimaru...but...is he really stronger?

I mean are the other Captains aware of eachothers power?
The previous strong Captain that fought Ichigo...he enjoyed fighting strong persons...and didnt for that long..why didnt he fought some Captains? Like sparring..
there was a special thread for capitans streangh, but...
numbers have diffrent meaning... capitans are all strong but they don't fight with each other so they don't know much about their Bankai's abbilites (its nomraly banned) but it's like anyone else's Shikai form everybody knows...
the coolest thing about bleach is that even if one shinigami gets owned with one shot doesn't mean he's much weaker (Abarai got owned by Ichigo and was clouse to Bankai - he got one fast critical hit

)
it's cool that you can't say that one enemy is hella stronger then the other, but diffrent (not like DBZ Freeza<<Cell<<Buu

)

and that's the way i think about it

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Mr. Johnny 5
2005-09-08, 10:34
there was a special thread for capitans streangh, but...
numbers have diffrent meaning... capitans are all strong but they don't fight with each other so they don't know much about their Bankai's abbilites (its nomraly banned) but it's like anyone else's Shikai form everybody knows...
the coolest thing about bleach is that even if one shinigami gets owned with one shot doesn't mean he's much weaker (Abarai got owned by Ichigo and was clouse to Bankai - he got one fast critical hit

)
it's cool that you can't say that one enemy is hella stronger then the other, but diffrent (not like DBZ Freeza<<Cell<<Buu

)

and that's the way i think about it

I see...well it WAS funny that Ichigo actually loses all the time....and pretty bad.
It usually someone else that is the hero.

Also his blade got snapped yet again.

------------Can Any Blade just be repaired just like that?? (Ichigo's blade suddenly was whole again)
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monir
2005-09-08, 13:00
It has been said by many that when it comes to the surrounding World in Soul Society, the Mangaka had a brain-fart. The series has so many holes to poke on that it is ridiuculous and not to mention, frustrating. Its just another shounen series where the use of grey matter can only reduce the fun of things. So shutting the constantly nagging brain might enhance the enjoyment for this show, especially when the subject is Soul Society.
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Zoe
2005-09-08, 15:35
------------Can Any Blade just be repaired just like that?? (Ichigo's blade suddenly was whole again)

The swords are reflections of their souls. It's already been established that released swords return to their normal states when the user loses consciousness. I would imagine broken swords get fixed after rest or some "soul searching."
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Guido
2005-09-08, 15:54
In the world of Bleach, what or who are the Vizards?
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emessen
2005-09-08, 16:54
In the world of Bleach, what or who are the Vizards?

Vizards are Shinigami that have dipped their hand into the realm of the hollow

as opposed to Arankaru which are hollows that have been bestowed shinigami powers

Edit by Moderator: Edited in spoiler tags. I'm going to have to ban you for saying this much without using spoiler tags.
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Mr. Johnny 5
2005-09-10, 19:21
Just got another few questions:

1#
They are about to kill Rukia....erm shouldnt she then just respawn in the same world? Soul Society? That's where dead people go right?

2#
Whitey-chan/Hitsugaya became extremely fast a captain...as we saw in the flashbacks he wasnt "that" much younger he looked 10 and now as captain 15-16.

Is he such an enormous genius that he became death god & captain so soon?
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hooliganj
2005-09-10, 19:38
#1 - No, welcome to a more eastern view of the afterlife. People that die in Soul Society are reincarnated in the living world. On the other hand, supposedly the execution method destroys a soul completely, so she may not come back at all.

#2 - Yeah, Hitsugaya is just that cool.

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deathsvengeance
2005-09-11, 04:28
.... I saw vol 8 in English at Waldenbooks a while back. I think you're a little late to preorder #1.

thanks! I totally fail at teh intarweb.

I do have a question about the OAV that was released. I started to watch it tonight thinking it would be something different from the anime but it seemed almost exactly the same as the one episode about Ichigo's mother. Anyway, was this put out before the anime was started? (I ask cause its called Jump fiesta, so I thought about the magazine.)

Oh and one more thing... When it is said that Ichigo has to die for Rukia to regain her powers as a death god, wouldn't she have regained them when Ichigo's soul link thing was cut by Byakuya? Or maybe when Urahara seperated Ichigo's soul from his body and severed the chain? That still doesn't make sense to me..

Yeah the OVA thing was put out about a year before the show started to my knowledge. About the second question, in a normal situaition she probally would get her powers back after Byakuya's attack around ep.17 or so. What's really happening however, is a little complex and something that best left to the show to explain since its part of the overall plot for this season.
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The Small One
2005-09-11, 06:14
Oh and one more thing... When it is said that Ichigo has to die for Rukia to regain her powers as a death god, wouldn't she have regained them when Ichigo's soul link thing was cut by Byakuya? Or maybe when Urahara seperated Ichigo's soul from his body and severed the chain? That still doesn't make sense to me..
What is the problem? She started to regain the powers, when Byakuya "killed" Ichigo... After that point Ichigo went back to beeing a normal human.
Regaining the powers don't work in an instant, they return gradually.
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Mr. Johnny 5
2005-09-11, 15:58
I probably saw a picture too many on the forums here "deathsvengeance"
Is Ichigo part Hollow? Cuz that the mask returned but that was under his outfit but was strange itself.

Note. I am watch Anime only...the answer is probably a spoiler then huh?

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deathsvengeance
2005-09-11, 17:27
I probably saw a picture too many on the forums here "deathsvengeance"
Is Ichigo part Hollow? Cuz that the mask returned but that was under his outfit but was strange itself.

Note. I am watch Anime only...the answer is probably a spoiler then huh?

I wound't know

I'm anime only also. This is just a cool piece of fanart I found on a livejournal dedicated to Bleach LJ icons

However...

it is suspected that he is part hollow, just not proven yet, from what I've heard others say
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Morisato
2005-09-11, 22:41
I probably saw a picture too many on the forums here "deathsvengeance"
Is Ichigo part Hollow? Cuz that the mask returned but that was under his outfit but was strange itself.

Note. I am watch Anime only...the answer is probably a spoiler then huh?

if you really really want to knowYes
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Cujo
2005-09-11, 23:37
Im not sure if anyone has asked this yet, but what chair in her division is rukia?
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Chick Magnet
2005-09-11, 23:40
Im not sure if anyone has asked this yet, but what chair in her division is rukia?

She was third chair. Those two shinigami who argue all the time trying to fill Kaien's place were first and second.
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KanaKaishou
2005-09-11, 23:50
She was third chair. Those two shinigami who argue all the time trying to fill Kaien's place were first and second.

I'm going to call a technical foul on that. The first seat is the captain (Ukitake) the second seat in this division is filled by 2 people (the two guys) and Rukia is a fourth seat (though that doesn't make sense, since I don't think she can call out her Soul Slayer).

One more thing:

The anime *has* mentioned why Rukia hasn't gotten back her powers--she says right before Ichigo fights Byakuya something to the nature of "Oh snap, the reason I have no powers is because I've been in a prison of Lethality Stone, which keeps my power down"... or something like that.
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deathsvengeance
2005-09-12, 00:37
I'm going to call a technical foul on that. The first seat is the captain (Ukitake) the second seat in this division is filled by 2 people (the two guys) and Rukia is a fourth seat (though that doesn't make sense, since I don't think she can call out her Soul Slayer).

One more thing:

The anime *has* mentioned why Rukia hasn't gotten back her powers--she says right before Ichigo fights Byakuya something to the nature of "Oh snap, the reason I have no powers is because I've been in a prison of Lethality Stone, which keeps my power down"... or something like that.
ah right, the Lethality stone.. but I still didn't understand then why during the Ichigo/Renji fight he screamed Ichigo had to die for her to get her powers back. I mean, he knew Byakuya severed those links..
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AthrunJustice
2005-09-12, 01:01
Hey i also wanna ask, is it the higher the captain is in the number of divisions, does that mean his strong?, looks like ichimaru doesnt put any foe or enemy in his eyes imo, and i thought the other dude with the dreads n bells was the strongest captain.
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NoSanninWa
2005-09-12, 01:11
Hey i also wanna ask, is it the higher the captain is in the number of divisions, does that mean his strong?, looks like ichimaru doesnt put any foe or enemy in his eyes imo, and i thought the other dude with the dreads n bells was the strongest captain.
Division number has nothing at all to do with strength. There is a whole thread devoted to the special purposes of some divisions if you want to discuss farther.
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Mr. Johnny 5
2005-09-12, 01:37
I wound't know

I'm anime only also. This is just a cool piece of fanart I found on a livejournal dedicated to Bleach LJ icons

However...

it is suspected that he is part hollow, just not proven yet, from what I've heard others say

Holy

how tempting....i want to click but then again....

Before i click i just want to know....how much further is the manga compared to the anime.

Naruto's case is like 30-40 episodes..but if Bleach's case is much more then that...then i'll leave it

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Morisato
2005-09-12, 04:26
Rukia was a no seat.

Bleach right now is at c132/3 or so, manga's at 194, 195 tomorrow.
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The Small One
2005-09-12, 05:22
ah right, the Lethality stone.. but I still didn't understand then why during the Ichigo/Renji fight he screamed Ichigo had to die for her to get her powers back. I mean, he knew Byakuya severed those links..
Well, Renji knew, that Byakuya tried to sever the links... however a success would result in a dead, or at least a human-only Ichigo. Now there is Ichigo standing before him as a Shinigami, so what conclusion is there for Renji to draw? He doesn't know, that Ichigo developped his own Shinigami powers, so from his point of view Byakuya failed and Ichigo is still using Rukia's powers.

Rukia was a no seat.
That's also what I think... to those who say Rukia was a seated Shinigami: reference please. Which chapter?
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Mr. Johnny 5
2005-09-12, 14:51
Yorichi (the cat) said that it always was a funny experience to see the look of others when she reveals her true form.

Uhm...so does she just pops her ......you know what.... in front of so many dudes?
Even if she was a highly respected former Commander...or did she ment: Guys like Ichigo...that she trained? But somehow died.
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Biswa
2005-09-12, 18:13
Yorichi (the cat) said that it always was a funny experience to see the look of others when she reveals her true form.

Uhm...so does she just pops her ......you know what.... in front of so many dudes?
Even if she was a highly respected former Commander...or did she ment: Guys like Ichigo...that she trained? But somehow died.

I dont think she was really referring to her being naked and getting a reaction, but more of her being a woman than a male cat. But maybe she doesn't realize that people are affected by her you know whats. I doubt she knew a lot of other guys other than Urahara and i can see that Urahara and Ichigo would have the same reaction.
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NoSanninWa
2005-09-12, 18:37
I think that she KNOWS what the effect is. She's just a tease.
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The Small One
2005-09-13, 04:02
IMHO she is talking about Ichigo's father...
Come to think of it, after they (Urahara&Yoruichi) left Soul Society, they shouldn't have met a lot of people, she could have shown her true form to...
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Guido
2005-09-13, 13:28
Why hasn't been voted/assigned a new vice-captain for the 13th squad?
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fluffyduckx
2005-09-13, 15:51
hmmm.. dunno if this question has been posted before.. Do the souls in soul society / rugonkai (sp) age?
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NoSanninWa
2005-09-13, 18:09
hmmm.. dunno if this question has been posted before.. Do the souls in soul society / rugonkai (sp) age?
We have seen younger versions of many of the characters in various flashbacks (Rukia, Renji, Yachiro, etc.) so it is safe to say that they do.

For more details, we have a thread to discuss it: [Manga] Aging in Soul Society (some spoilers). The spoilers are minor, but be aware of them before you click the link.
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Zoe
2005-09-14, 00:36
I'm going to call a technical foul on that. The first seat is the captain (Ukitake) the second seat in this division is filled by 2 people (the two guys) and Rukia is a fourth seat (though that doesn't make sense, since I don't think she can call out her Soul Slayer).

I'll put this behind spoilers to be safe... Some of this should have been mentioned in the latest episode, but I didn't remember catching it.

First seat = Ukitake
Second seat = unfilled (previously Shiba Kaien)
Third seat = shared by the two stooges (previously Miyako)

As Morisato said, we've never been given any indication that Rukia actually became a seated member. When she first joined, she told Byakuya that she was unseated. Later on she says that she has been rising in the ranks, but I still wouldn't say that's good enough to assume she was a seated officer.

Besides, does it really make sense to send a seated officer after petty hollows?
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Morisato
2005-09-14, 03:32
Why hasn't been voted/assigned a new vice-captain for the 13th squad?

There is no reason really, I call it a plothole. No actually now that I think about it, those two 3rd seats are fighting for it so they see who can suck up more.
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The Small One
2005-09-14, 05:25
Why hasn't been voted/assigned a new vice-captain for the 13th squad?

BTW, did they mention how much time passed since Kaien died?

If not: Maybe it was just a few weeks ago, so they didn't even have the time to search for a replacement.
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Karthak
2005-09-14, 08:58
BTW, did they mention how much time passed since Kaien died?

If not: Maybe it was just a few weeks ago, so they didn't even have the time to search for a replacement.Kaien died when Ganju was just a boy, and he`s obviously adult now.
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The Small One
2005-09-14, 11:01
Kaien died when Ganju was just a boy, and he`s obviously adult now.
This doesn't really help much, since we don't have enough information about the aging in SS.
Rukia and the others of her squad were around the same age, they are now... it looks like everyone ages with a different speed.
I really hope the author is going to explain this issue someday.
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arcanix
2005-09-15, 15:23
I've been searching web for pictures of division signs (you know, those that are on teichou's robe and fuku-teichou's arm patch). Haven't found any though. What does those kanji's mean? Is it just the division number?

edit:
Well I figured that one myself, so here's a picture if you are interested:

http://www.camas.wednet.edu/chs/club...ji_numbers.gif

Those were plain numbers just like I thought.
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Rex blade
2005-09-15, 15:53
lol only 1 view and u already figured it out?

pretty fast i gotta say
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Souzouryoku
2005-09-19, 16:16
Mmmm--I'm almost sure I missed something in the manga or something, but i'll ask anyway..

What ever happened to Grand Fisher? -.- He just flew off (waaaayyy back in like..volume 3) and that was that?
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Tiamat
2005-09-19, 16:38
Mmmm--I'm almost sure I missed something in the manga or something, but i'll ask anyway..

What ever happened to Grand Fisher? -.- He just flew off (waaaayyy back in like..volume 3) and that was that?

The Movie that will be coming out will be where Grand Fisher shows up again. So Ichigo will have a grand battle with Grand Fisher to resolve everything. And I believe that it is set up to be after the SS arc.
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Jumper
2005-09-20, 02:45
What Movie are you talking about? o_O
There only a OVA about the Grand Fisher Arc

and it isn't Ichigo who will kill GF after the SS arc
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Tiamat
2005-09-20, 18:47
What Movie are you talking about? o_O
There only a OVA about the Grand Fisher Arc

and it isn't Ichigo who will kill GF after the SS arc

Really?

I heard that it was going to be made into a movie but if it's an OVA that works too. If I'm wrong, sorry, that's just what I heard. And...

Shouldn't it be Ichigo who would kill Grand Fisher? Who would it be then, because I would think Ichigo would take care of him because of his personal connection and grudge against Grand Fisher?
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Souzouryoku
2005-09-20, 19:28
What Movie are you talking about? o_O
There only a OVA about the Grand Fisher Arc

and it isn't Ichigo who will kill GF after the SS arc

You say it as if the OVA has come out already. Was it in the manga or something?
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NoSanninWa
2005-09-21, 01:11
You say it as if the OVA has come out already. Was it in the manga or something?
There is already an OVA about Ichigo's encounter with the Ground Fisher called Jump Festa 2004: Memories in the Rain + 13 Squad Omake. It is listed on AnimeSuki, so feel free to download and watch it.

As for the second appearance of Ground Fisher, it has happened in the manga, but there is no OVA about that encounter. There are some rumors that there will be such an OVA, but they are unsubstantiated and I personally doubt it.
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PastPrime
2005-09-21, 01:11
You say it as if the OVA has come out already. Was it in the manga or something?
The OVA was basically the Manga version of Ichigo's encounter with the GF. It differed somewhat from the Anime version but the end result was the same.
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Morisato
2005-09-21, 02:15
Theres another OVA coming out called "Sealed Sword", hes kenpachi's long lost brother named Bai Shin and like his brother, he wants to release his sword, features Hitsuguya, Renji and Ichigo. Has nothing to do with the manga though.
Ichigo never killed him, he just wounded him....later Isshin kills him
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Tiamat
2005-09-21, 13:30
Theres another OVA coming out called "Sealed Sword", hes kenpachi's long lost brother named Bai Shin and like his brother, he wants to release his sword, features Hitsuguya, Renji and Ichigo. Has nothing to do with the manga though.
Ichigo never killed him, he just wounded him....later Isshin kills him

Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up Morisato.

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*NightWish* …Nothing More Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Age: 44	Recovered Thread Content [3] Spoiler: Jumper 2005-08-29, 05:34 What are the names of Yachiru's Shikai and Bankai (assuming she does have these)? just the names please =) no manga spoilers, thanks! the names are still unkown in the Manga ________________________________________ rtwesen 2005-08-29, 06:51 the names are still unkown in the Manga ahh my bad. Thanks for the info! ________________________________________ aznmastah 2005-08-31, 21:00 Um i didnt really understand this cause Rukia and Renji were born in a city in sould society. But isnt soul society where dead people go? So how come they werent brought up in the human world...wait...now im confusing myself (T_T) ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-08-31, 21:07 They were re-incarnated into Soul Society after dying in the human world. Don't strain yourself too much over it. There are a few inconsistencies in his world creation, but this isn't really one of them. They probably just died when they were young so they appeared in Soul Society as youngsters. If you want to discuss the topic any further, aspects of it are already discussed in several threads: Soul Society ? (Anime ONLY, spoilers = BAN) Death in Bleach (Beware SPOILER tags or cry) [Manga] Aging in Soul Society (some spoilers) [spoilers] Do Shinigami reproduce? ________________________________________ aznmastah 2005-08-31, 21:16 Awww I cant look at these. I cant watch spoilers sniff sniff (T_T) Thanks though ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-08-31, 21:25 Awww I cant look at these. I cant watch spoilers sniff sniff (T_T) Thanks though You should read more carefully. That's the reason this thread was created: Soul Society ? (Anime ONLY, spoilers = BAN) ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-01, 04:03 They were re-incarnated into Soul Society after dying in the human world. Actually we have no information about this... it is indeed possible, that they were born into Soul Society. ________________________________________ hi no ken Jebus 2005-09-01, 07:08 Actually we have no information about this... it is indeed possible, that they were born into Soul Society. Actually you do, at least for rukia. When byakuya is telling rukia about hisana. He mentions that after they died in the real world rukia was abandoned by hisana as an infant . ________________________________________ Myname 2005-09-01, 18:41 Rukia died as a baby ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-09-01, 22:16 Rukia died as a baby If you don't mind me asking, when is this all explained? Soon I hope? {anime watcher} ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-09-01, 22:46 If you don't mind me asking, when is this all explained? Soon I hope? {anime watcher} Not until the end of the arc. ________________________________________ epileather 2005-09-01, 22:58 Is there romance involved in this Series? Or it's like Full metal Alchemist, no romance at all. ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-02, 03:41 Is there romance involved in this Series? Or it's like Full metal Alchemist, no romance at all. There are hints of who like whom, but mostly there really isn't any romance. ________________________________________ Myname 2005-09-02, 05:18 Ishida likes Orihime, Orihime likes Ichigo, Ichigo and Rukia are friends/possibly lovers, Renji likes Rukia, Rukia likes Kaien, Kira has a crush on Hinamori, Hinamori is obsessed with Aizen, Hitsuguya likes Hinamori, Matsumoto likes Gin, Gin saved her from stavation when they were kids, Urahara and Yoruichi most likely are a pair, I believe Chad has something for Karin, I also believe Hisagi has a crush on Hinamori, Shunsui and Nanao are like a married couple type of relationship, Nemu and Mayuri are.... (dont know about this one), Ganju hates Rukia, Hanatarou probably likes Rukia and thats about it. ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-09-03, 00:39 I've recently read up on all of the latest manga chapters, and am at the part where Rukia stays in the soul society. I feel stupid for asking, but that's not the end of her right ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-03, 05:45 Most likely, she was useless anyways, if not her holding the thing in her body than someone else, she was nothing special. PS. She is beyond weak, her power is pathetic ________________________________________ hi no ken Jebus 2005-09-03, 13:55 I've recently read up on all of the latest manga chapters, and am at the part where Rukia stays in the soul society. I feel stupid for asking, but that's not the end of her right As of now the focus seems to be on Ichigo and a possible 3 side war in the physical realm. Of course SS will show up eventually so I wouldn't be surprised if she shows up better than before. ________________________________________ rtwesen 2005-09-04, 01:45 has Yachiru fought in the manga yet? Just a yes/no answer please, and approx. how long the fight was, thanks! ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-04, 02:09 no........ ________________________________________ rtwesen 2005-09-04, 02:28 thanks alot! ________________________________________ epileather 2005-09-04, 03:37 Thanks No and Myname ________________________________________ F~Aura 2005-09-08, 00:13 Soul Society = Heaven? Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but.. 1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven? 2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear? 3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed? any answers or guesses? ________________________________________ jbruns 2005-09-08, 00:20 Soul Society = Heaven? Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but.. 1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven? 2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear? 3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed? any answers or guesses? No its not ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-08, 00:31 Soul Society = Heaven? Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but.. 1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven? 2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear? 3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed? any answers or guesses? In an early episode, Rukia said that Soul Society was better than Earth in 9 ways out of 10, so the deceased souls were going to a better place. It isn't Heaven. It's just an after life. I'm pretty sure that there is another thread on the subject of the nature of Soul Society. (Finding the thread will be left as an exercise for the student.) If you want to know more about Soul Society, ask there. 1. It is only supposed to be better than Earth, not perfect. (Though having seem SS, I have serious questions about how it is better.) 2. As for What happens to dead souls, they are re-incarnated as mortals on Earth. That subject ALSO has its own thread. 3. Spiritual bodies bleed spirtual blood. They can die also, so this shouldn't be too surprising. ________________________________________ emessen 2005-09-08, 00:35 Soul Society = Heaven? Sorry, i might explain some spoilers to those who havnt seen some episodes but.. 1. In the episodes where Rukia and Renji were growing up in the flashbacks, there are really poor looking districts and it seems pretty bad, didnt they claim Soul Society to be like heaven? 2. We know that when people die in bleach, they go to soul society aka heaven. So what happens when people die in soul society?( the Captain Aizen incident) do they go back to earth or just disappear? 3. If your in soul society, it means you're there as a soul right? how can a soul bleed? any answers or guesses? I think it best that the Idea of heaven and hell, fundamentally Western teachings not be brought up when discussing the Bleach anime that has it's own mythos loosely based on eastern philosiphies. But I think that some questions deserve some discussion. 1.) I dont recall Soul Society being claimed to be like heaven... as i recall during Chad's introductory arc Rukia explains Soul Society to just be better than earth in the fact that you dont get hungry. Only souls that have the ability to use spiritual powers get hungry but all souls get thirsty. I found that amusing that Water the source of life is the source of nourishment even for the dead. 2.) Again I think its best not to think that Soul Society = heaven... Perhaps its better to think that it's more like The Underworld of Greek Mythology where all souls go to Hades and either get sent to tarturus or the Elysian Fields... The Elysian Fields shouldnt be interpretted as being Heaven either since it is part of Hades' Underworld Realm. Just like how Soul Society has it's well off districts and not so well off districts The Heavens in greek mythology are after all where the God's live. Anyway what happens when spiritual beings are "killed" when in soul society? the best explanation to that question is probably that they get sent back to Earth, or are reborn. Soul Society relegates souls... and there has to be a balance between it and Earth. i'm referring to that hourglass model during the Quincy Arc. 3.) This one is a very interesting question. and it begs discussion in my opinion. I will pose this one question since we are talking about how can souls bleed. In some Christian teachings Hell is a place of eternal torture or something to that extent where you or left to your own misery... So i guess that begs the question... how does a soul suffer? how does a spiritual being feel pain. Makes you wonder hmmm? My hypothesis is this that souls are aware... that they have minds and by mind i dont mean brain but the ability to think. Therefore since they are only bound by what they know prior to death, that after death they are prone to relying on that knowledge. That when in death the spiritual beings recreate what they know from Earth in order to keep exsisting as spirits sounds odd and a lil buggy i'm sure... but i guess you could kind of think of it like the Matrix? that souls need to grasp onto something they know that is tangible to them even if they are not corporeal ________________________________________ purplefeiying 2005-09-08, 02:18 wuu...wuu... I scroll down the forum and it's all 'spoilers'... wuu wuu... Basically, questions can't be answered without spiling the suspense rite? Guess I just hv to be patient & wait for de anime eps.. ________________________________________ deathsvengeance 2005-09-08, 03:38 I remember distinctly, Ichigo asked Rukia what soul society was, and she said it was like what humans think of as heaven. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-08, 03:41 1. It is only supposed to be better than Earth, not perfect. (Though having seem SS, I have serious questions about how it is better.) No hollows... while the spirits, which stay on earth are constantly beeing threated by hollows, the souls in SS don't have to worry about this. ________________________________________ deathsvengeance 2005-09-08, 03:46 No hollows... while the spirits, which stay on earth are constantly beeing threated by hollows, the souls in SS don't have to worry about this. Or maybe they say it is "better" than earth because the ones saying that are Death Gods and they live inside the Court of Pure Souls and don't have to deal with the crap outside their precious walls. Only Death Gods like Rukia or Renji might understand that its not really better than earth at all, its just a place where they don't have to deal with hollows, but instead, they have to deal with Death Gods (whom most of the commoners seem to loathe). ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-08, 06:12 Just learned to watch bleach the last few days...and to be honest i became awesome later on. I watched from 1-46..Anime but have some questions here. Which Captain is the strongest? Does it go by order? 1-13th? Hitsugaya is definetly the coolest and threatened Ichimaru...but...is he really stronger? I mean are the other Captains aware of eachothers power? The previous strong Captain that fought Ichigo...he enjoyed fighting strong persons...and didnt for that long..why didnt he fought some Captains? Like sparring.. ________________________________________ Wolcik 2005-09-08, 09:39 Just learned to watch bleach the last few days...and to be honest i became awesome later on. I watched from 1-46..Anime but have some questions here. Which Captain is the strongest? Does it go by order? 1-13th? Hitsugaya is definetly the coolest and threatened Ichimaru...but...is he really stronger? I mean are the other Captains aware of eachothers power? The previous strong Captain that fought Ichigo...he enjoyed fighting strong persons...and didnt for that long..why didnt he fought some Captains? Like sparring.. there was a special thread for capitans streangh, but... numbers have diffrent meaning... capitans are all strong but they don't fight with each other so they don't know much about their Bankai's abbilites (its nomraly banned) but it's like anyone else's Shikai form everybody knows... the coolest thing about bleach is that even if one shinigami gets owned with one shot doesn't mean he's much weaker (Abarai got owned by Ichigo and was clouse to Bankai - he got one fast critical hit ) it's cool that you can't say that one enemy is hella stronger then the other, but diffrent (not like DBZ Freeza<<Cell<<Buu ) and that's the way i think about it ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-08, 10:34 there was a special thread for capitans streangh, but... numbers have diffrent meaning... capitans are all strong but they don't fight with each other so they don't know much about their Bankai's abbilites (its nomraly banned) but it's like anyone else's Shikai form everybody knows... the coolest thing about bleach is that even if one shinigami gets owned with one shot doesn't mean he's much weaker (Abarai got owned by Ichigo and was clouse to Bankai - he got one fast critical hit ) it's cool that you can't say that one enemy is hella stronger then the other, but diffrent (not like DBZ Freeza<<Cell<<Buu ) and that's the way i think about it I see...well it WAS funny that Ichigo actually loses all the time....and pretty bad. It usually someone else that is the hero. Also his blade got snapped yet again. ------------Can Any Blade just be repaired just like that?? (Ichigo's blade suddenly was whole again) ________________________________________ monir 2005-09-08, 13:00 It has been said by many that when it comes to the surrounding World in Soul Society, the Mangaka had a brain-fart. The series has so many holes to poke on that it is ridiuculous and not to mention, frustrating. Its just another shounen series where the use of grey matter can only reduce the fun of things. So shutting the constantly nagging brain might enhance the enjoyment for this show, especially when the subject is Soul Society. ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-09-08, 15:35 ------------Can Any Blade just be repaired just like that?? (Ichigo's blade suddenly was whole again) The swords are reflections of their souls. It's already been established that released swords return to their normal states when the user loses consciousness. I would imagine broken swords get fixed after rest or some "soul searching." ________________________________________ Guido 2005-09-08, 15:54 In the world of Bleach, what or who are the Vizards? ________________________________________ emessen 2005-09-08, 16:54 In the world of Bleach, what or who are the Vizards? Vizards are Shinigami that have dipped their hand into the realm of the hollow as opposed to Arankaru which are hollows that have been bestowed shinigami powers Edit by Moderator: Edited in spoiler tags. I'm going to have to ban you for saying this much without using spoiler tags. ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-10, 19:21 Just got another few questions: 1# They are about to kill Rukia....erm shouldnt she then just respawn in the same world? Soul Society? That's where dead people go right? 2# Whitey-chan/Hitsugaya became extremely fast a captain...as we saw in the flashbacks he wasnt "that" much younger he looked 10 and now as captain 15-16. Is he such an enormous genius that he became death god & captain so soon? ________________________________________ hooliganj 2005-09-10, 19:38 #1 - No, welcome to a more eastern view of the afterlife. People that die in Soul Society are reincarnated in the living world. On the other hand, supposedly the execution method destroys a soul completely, so she may not come back at all. #2 - Yeah, Hitsugaya is just that cool. ________________________________________ deathsvengeance 2005-09-11, 04:28 .... I saw vol 8 in English at Waldenbooks a while back. I think you're a little late to preorder #1. thanks! I totally fail at teh intarweb. I do have a question about the OAV that was released. I started to watch it tonight thinking it would be something different from the anime but it seemed almost exactly the same as the one episode about Ichigo's mother. Anyway, was this put out before the anime was started? (I ask cause its called Jump fiesta, so I thought about the magazine.) Oh and one more thing... When it is said that Ichigo has to die for Rukia to regain her powers as a death god, wouldn't she have regained them when Ichigo's soul link thing was cut by Byakuya? Or maybe when Urahara seperated Ichigo's soul from his body and severed the chain? That still doesn't make sense to me.. ________________________________________ AMon10A 2005-09-11, 05:34 thanks! I totally fail at teh intarweb. I do have a question about the OAV that was released. I started to watch it tonight thinking it would be something different from the anime but it seemed almost exactly the same as the one episode about Ichigo's mother. Anyway, was this put out before the anime was started? (I ask cause its called Jump fiesta, so I thought about the magazine.) Oh and one more thing... When it is said that Ichigo has to die for Rukia to regain her powers as a death god, wouldn't she have regained them when Ichigo's soul link thing was cut by Byakuya? Or maybe when Urahara seperated Ichigo's soul from his body and severed the chain? That still doesn't make sense to me.. Yeah the OVA thing was put out about a year before the show started to my knowledge. About the second question, in a normal situaition she probally would get her powers back after Byakuya's attack around ep.17 or so. What's really happening however, is a little complex and something that best left to the show to explain since its part of the overall plot for this season. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-11, 06:14 Oh and one more thing... When it is said that Ichigo has to die for Rukia to regain her powers as a death god, wouldn't she have regained them when Ichigo's soul link thing was cut by Byakuya? Or maybe when Urahara seperated Ichigo's soul from his body and severed the chain? That still doesn't make sense to me.. What is the problem? She started to regain the powers, when Byakuya "killed" Ichigo... After that point Ichigo went back to beeing a normal human. Regaining the powers don't work in an instant, they return gradually. ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-11, 15:58 I probably saw a picture too many on the forums here "deathsvengeance" Is Ichigo part Hollow? Cuz that the mask returned but that was under his outfit but was strange itself. Note. I am watch Anime only...the answer is probably a spoiler then huh? ________________________________________ deathsvengeance 2005-09-11, 17:27 I probably saw a picture too many on the forums here "deathsvengeance" Is Ichigo part Hollow? Cuz that the mask returned but that was under his outfit but was strange itself. Note. I am watch Anime only...the answer is probably a spoiler then huh? I wound't know I'm anime only also. This is just a cool piece of fanart I found on a livejournal dedicated to Bleach LJ icons However... it is suspected that he is part hollow, just not proven yet, from what I've heard others say ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-11, 22:41 I probably saw a picture too many on the forums here "deathsvengeance" Is Ichigo part Hollow? Cuz that the mask returned but that was under his outfit but was strange itself. Note. I am watch Anime only...the answer is probably a spoiler then huh? if you really really want to knowYes ________________________________________ Cujo 2005-09-11, 23:37 Im not sure if anyone has asked this yet, but what chair in her division is rukia? ________________________________________ Chick Magnet 2005-09-11, 23:40 Im not sure if anyone has asked this yet, but what chair in her division is rukia? She was third chair. Those two shinigami who argue all the time trying to fill Kaien's place were first and second. ________________________________________ KanaKaishou 2005-09-11, 23:50 She was third chair. Those two shinigami who argue all the time trying to fill Kaien's place were first and second. I'm going to call a technical foul on that. The first seat is the captain (Ukitake) the second seat in this division is filled by 2 people (the two guys) and Rukia is a fourth seat (though that doesn't make sense, since I don't think she can call out her Soul Slayer). One more thing: The anime has mentioned why Rukia hasn't gotten back her powers--she says right before Ichigo fights Byakuya something to the nature of "Oh snap, the reason I have no powers is because I've been in a prison of Lethality Stone, which keeps my power down"... or something like that. ________________________________________ deathsvengeance 2005-09-12, 00:37 I'm going to call a technical foul on that. The first seat is the captain (Ukitake) the second seat in this division is filled by 2 people (the two guys) and Rukia is a fourth seat (though that doesn't make sense, since I don't think she can call out her Soul Slayer). One more thing: The anime has mentioned why Rukia hasn't gotten back her powers--she says right before Ichigo fights Byakuya something to the nature of "Oh snap, the reason I have no powers is because I've been in a prison of Lethality Stone, which keeps my power down"... or something like that. ah right, the Lethality stone.. but I still didn't understand then why during the Ichigo/Renji fight he screamed Ichigo had to die for her to get her powers back. I mean, he knew Byakuya severed those links.. ________________________________________ AthrunJustice 2005-09-12, 01:01 Hey i also wanna ask, is it the higher the captain is in the number of divisions, does that mean his strong?, looks like ichimaru doesnt put any foe or enemy in his eyes imo, and i thought the other dude with the dreads n bells was the strongest captain. ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-12, 01:11 Hey i also wanna ask, is it the higher the captain is in the number of divisions, does that mean his strong?, looks like ichimaru doesnt put any foe or enemy in his eyes imo, and i thought the other dude with the dreads n bells was the strongest captain. Division number has nothing at all to do with strength. There is a whole thread devoted to the special purposes of some divisions if you want to discuss farther. ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-12, 01:37 I wound't know I'm anime only also. This is just a cool piece of fanart I found on a livejournal dedicated to Bleach LJ icons However... it is suspected that he is part hollow, just not proven yet, from what I've heard others say Holy how tempting....i want to click but then again.... Before i click i just want to know....how much further is the manga compared to the anime. Naruto's case is like 30-40 episodes..but if Bleach's case is much more then that...then i'll leave it ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-12, 04:26 Rukia was a no seat. Bleach right now is at c132/3 or so, manga's at 194, 195 tomorrow. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-12, 05:22 ah right, the Lethality stone.. but I still didn't understand then why during the Ichigo/Renji fight he screamed Ichigo had to die for her to get her powers back. I mean, he knew Byakuya severed those links.. Well, Renji knew, that Byakuya tried to sever the links... however a success would result in a dead, or at least a human-only Ichigo. Now there is Ichigo standing before him as a Shinigami, so what conclusion is there for Renji to draw? He doesn't know, that Ichigo developped his own Shinigami powers, so from his point of view Byakuya failed and Ichigo is still using Rukia's powers. Rukia was a no seat. That's also what I think... to those who say Rukia was a seated Shinigami: reference please. Which chapter? ________________________________________ Mr. Johnny 5 2005-09-12, 14:51 Yorichi (the cat) said that it always was a funny experience to see the look of others when she reveals her true form. Uhm...so does she just pops her ......you know what.... in front of so many dudes? Even if she was a highly respected former Commander...or did she ment: Guys like Ichigo...that she trained? But somehow died. ________________________________________ Biswa 2005-09-12, 18:13 Yorichi (the cat) said that it always was a funny experience to see the look of others when she reveals her true form. Uhm...so does she just pops her ......you know what.... in front of so many dudes? Even if she was a highly respected former Commander...or did she ment: Guys like Ichigo...that she trained? But somehow died. I dont think she was really referring to her being naked and getting a reaction, but more of her being a woman than a male cat. But maybe she doesn't realize that people are affected by her you know whats. I doubt she knew a lot of other guys other than Urahara and i can see that Urahara and Ichigo would have the same reaction. ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-12, 18:37 I think that she KNOWS what the effect is. She's just a tease. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-13, 04:02 IMHO she is talking about Ichigo's father... Come to think of it, after they (Urahara&Yoruichi) left Soul Society, they shouldn't have met a lot of people, she could have shown her true form to... ________________________________________ Guido 2005-09-13, 13:28 Why hasn't been voted/assigned a new vice-captain for the 13th squad? ________________________________________ fluffyduckx 2005-09-13, 15:51 hmmm.. dunno if this question has been posted before.. Do the souls in soul society / rugonkai (sp) age? ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-13, 18:09 hmmm.. dunno if this question has been posted before.. Do the souls in soul society / rugonkai (sp) age? We have seen younger versions of many of the characters in various flashbacks (Rukia, Renji, Yachiro, etc.) so it is safe to say that they do. For more details, we have a thread to discuss it: [Manga] Aging in Soul Society (some spoilers). The spoilers are minor, but be aware of them before you click the link. ________________________________________ Zoe 2005-09-14, 00:36 I'm going to call a technical foul on that. The first seat is the captain (Ukitake) the second seat in this division is filled by 2 people (the two guys) and Rukia is a fourth seat (though that doesn't make sense, since I don't think she can call out her Soul Slayer). I'll put this behind spoilers to be safe... Some of this should have been mentioned in the latest episode, but I didn't remember catching it. First seat = Ukitake Second seat = unfilled (previously Shiba Kaien) Third seat = shared by the two stooges (previously Miyako) As Morisato said, we've never been given any indication that Rukia actually became a seated member. When she first joined, she told Byakuya that she was unseated. Later on she says that she has been rising in the ranks, but I still wouldn't say that's good enough to assume she was a seated officer. Besides, does it really make sense to send a seated officer after petty hollows? ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-14, 03:32 Why hasn't been voted/assigned a new vice-captain for the 13th squad? There is no reason really, I call it a plothole. No actually now that I think about it, those two 3rd seats are fighting for it so they see who can suck up more. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-14, 05:25 Why hasn't been voted/assigned a new vice-captain for the 13th squad? BTW, did they mention how much time passed since Kaien died? If not: Maybe it was just a few weeks ago, so they didn't even have the time to search for a replacement. ________________________________________ Karthak 2005-09-14, 08:58 BTW, did they mention how much time passed since Kaien died? If not: Maybe it was just a few weeks ago, so they didn't even have the time to search for a replacement.Kaien died when Ganju was just a boy, and he`s obviously adult now. ________________________________________ The Small One 2005-09-14, 11:01 Kaien died when Ganju was just a boy, and he`s obviously adult now. This doesn't really help much, since we don't have enough information about the aging in SS. Rukia and the others of her squad were around the same age, they are now... it looks like everyone ages with a different speed. I really hope the author is going to explain this issue someday. ________________________________________ arcanix 2005-09-15, 15:23 I've been searching web for pictures of division signs (you know, those that are on teichou's robe and fuku-teichou's arm patch). Haven't found any though. What does those kanji's mean? Is it just the division number? edit: Well I figured that one myself, so here's a picture if you are interested: http://www.camas.wednet.edu/chs/club...ji_numbers.gif Those were plain numbers just like I thought. ________________________________________ Rex blade 2005-09-15, 15:53 lol only 1 view and u already figured it out? pretty fast i gotta say ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-09-19, 16:16 Mmmm--I'm almost sure I missed something in the manga or something, but i'll ask anyway.. What ever happened to Grand Fisher? -.- He just flew off (waaaayyy back in like..volume 3) and that was that? ________________________________________ Tiamat 2005-09-19, 16:38 Mmmm--I'm almost sure I missed something in the manga or something, but i'll ask anyway.. What ever happened to Grand Fisher? -.- He just flew off (waaaayyy back in like..volume 3) and that was that? The Movie that will be coming out will be where Grand Fisher shows up again. So Ichigo will have a grand battle with Grand Fisher to resolve everything. And I believe that it is set up to be after the SS arc. ________________________________________ Jumper 2005-09-20, 02:45 What Movie are you talking about? o_O There only a OVA about the Grand Fisher Arc and it isn't Ichigo who will kill GF after the SS arc ________________________________________ Tiamat 2005-09-20, 18:47 What Movie are you talking about? o_O There only a OVA about the Grand Fisher Arc and it isn't Ichigo who will kill GF after the SS arc Really? I heard that it was going to be made into a movie but if it's an OVA that works too. If I'm wrong, sorry, that's just what I heard. And... Shouldn't it be Ichigo who would kill Grand Fisher? Who would it be then, because I would think Ichigo would take care of him because of his personal connection and grudge against Grand Fisher? ________________________________________ Souzouryoku 2005-09-20, 19:28 What Movie are you talking about? o_O There only a OVA about the Grand Fisher Arc and it isn't Ichigo who will kill GF after the SS arc You say it as if the OVA has come out already. Was it in the manga or something? ________________________________________ NoSanninWa 2005-09-21, 01:11 You say it as if the OVA has come out already. Was it in the manga or something? There is already an OVA about Ichigo's encounter with the Ground Fisher called Jump Festa 2004: Memories in the Rain + 13 Squad Omake. It is listed on AnimeSuki, so feel free to download and watch it. As for the second appearance of Ground Fisher, it has happened in the manga, but there is no OVA about that encounter. There are some rumors that there will be such an OVA, but they are unsubstantiated and I personally doubt it. ________________________________________ PastPrime 2005-09-21, 01:11 You say it as if the OVA has come out already. Was it in the manga or something? The OVA was basically the Manga version of Ichigo's encounter with the GF. It differed somewhat from the Anime version but the end result was the same. ________________________________________ Morisato 2005-09-21, 02:15 Theres another OVA coming out called "Sealed Sword", hes kenpachi's long lost brother named Bai Shin and like his brother, he wants to release his sword, features Hitsuguya, Renji and Ichigo. Has nothing to do with the manga though. Ichigo never killed him, he just wounded him....later Isshin kills him ________________________________________ Tiamat 2005-09-21, 13:30 Theres another OVA coming out called "Sealed Sword", hes kenpachi's long lost brother named Bai Shin and like his brother, he wants to release his sword, features Hitsuguya, Renji and Ichigo. Has nothing to do with the manga though. Ichigo never killed him, he just wounded him....later Isshin kills him Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up Morisato. Last edited by NightWish; 2005-12-19 at 07:53.