[CrazyPerson]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

But her factory is immobile. And how hard of a target can it be? She's only got a few people.

And against someone who just killed 700000 people and threatens the world with more to come? Yes, it's worth it. No sacrifice is too great, unless you're the one getting sacrificed. (Meaning SA wouldn't nuke itself even if it was a nuclear power, but for every other country that option would totally be on the table.)

You keep ignoring the fact that it isn't publicly known that the factory is the must hit target. All your other points on a strike on her fails after that. But I'll humour you and keep going.

That 700k is a one-time thing from the plane crashes. After that, nobody flies and no more body count from her unless you're dumb enough to fly on compromised networks.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

You don't need all 30000.

The less attacking her, the more likely she'll hold with advanced weaponry.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Yes, assume a general can drive to a base and yell "Assemble! March!". That's really not as difficult as you paint it.

The difficulty is for your general to even know that the SA factory needs to be hit. She's going to be as sure as hell to make sure no forces of any size even HEARS that the factory needs hitting. Only the CIA even has a remote guess that it's the factory. That's also ignoring the fact she can bribe them too, the country, that is.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

A few dozen predators, even if she's got them, aren't going to save her.

She supplies countries with predators. She's going to have more than a few dozen. And all the predators have to do is take out any C&C and the army is routed. That's also not to mention bombers that she has at her disposal. After R, you saw how she dealt with Hex.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Right now, she can't trust Jonah not to shoot her. What makes you think she can trust a random PMC?

She doesn't have to let to PMC into her plan. All she needs to do is pay them, send them to an area probably farther away from the factory and say "hold the line, you'll have air support." That or bribe the SA army.

As for Jonah, well that's a storyline thing. While Koko has trusted him explicitly, she knew, he knew, and we all knew he wasn't that loyal to her and that he has his own conscience. She chose to expose herself that way for her own reasons.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

For that matter, how is she going to pay them? Just her threat effectively destroyed our banking system.

Suppose she is destroying the banking system, she's in the perfect position to make a new world order. PMC's will want to cozy up to that. But that isn't the point, she isn't going to destroy the banking system, just selectively halt comms she doesn't like and traffic she doesn't want.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

But see, here's the problem: if you take hostages, and start shooting a few, you lose almost all your leverage and most likely get a full assault. It doesn't matter if 90% of your hostages are still alive - that's the point where the police goes all in.

Consider the first 10% as the guards a bank robber shoots before gaining complete control of the bank. The police will still want to negotiate for the 90% as long as the robbers aren't shooting after control is gained.

You're thinking too small of a scale. Both Russia and the USA had each other's countries hostage for ages with nuclear arms. MAD doctrine ensured that neither struck. They nuke her, and while the nukes are in-bound, she wipes them out. So just like the cold war, neither will want to strike. I bet that if she wipes them pre-emptively, they'll launch a few weeks later if they're feeling bold; that preserves the MAD aspect.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Killing 700000 people and threatening the rest of the world with more? It just means she has to do down as fast as possible. Worry about picking up the pieces of her rampage once she's dead and her computer destroyed or seized.

Where does it say she's threatening more after the 700k? You stay out of the air and she can't actively kill you. No country is going to think 700k worth the end of the world. And Jormungand guarantees no fast response, nuclear or otherwise. She's also not rampaging to kill people on a daily basis, don't know where you're getting this.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

And worst case scenario: people learn to do without open electronic networks. It'll suck, but that's how we've done for most of our history. What they won't do is give up on killing Koko and taking back... well, late 20th and early 21st century technology. That's what this is about.

This part I agree with. Each country will want to get sovereign control back. But if she plays right, whether or not they can do so is another matter. Jormungand going mobile and hidden will ensure they're stuck with closed wired networks or short range radio (anything long range and wireless will probably get intercepted). Early 21st century tech is a huge barrier to raging long-distance conflicts. Body counts would definitely get reduced... which is her goal.