[LevelSeven]

Spoiler for @entei from another thread:

Originally Posted by entei08

Did you think the military would have to turn off the EMP protection every time before using something that receives signals? Are they only going to turn on the protection when they magically know an EMP is going to happen? Come on now.

no idea, do they?
as far as i know, the devices who send and recieve signals can only be protected partially at best because the reciever needs to be able to still get/send the signals...
as for the choker, that would mean that it would become a much bigger device that has a faraday cage at the places that dont recieve signals, but it wont matter for accel because if the reciever is destroyed everything else on the device is too...

Amata didn't lose because he didn't turn off the choker, period. His first priority was retrieving LO, Accel was no threat to him, he didn't need to kill him right away. But still, he beat him around so much he could have just ended it right there if Index didn't show up. By the time Accel showed up a second time he ran out of battery almost right away. Still, why oh why would he need to use an EMP when he can literally punch him to death or knock him out whenever he wanted and get the most satisfaction out of it? Accel was almost like a kid before his maker, would you need a knife to discipline a kid? Sure it helps, but ultimately unnecessary.

as you said, amata was accels maker, so he should also know that accel is very capable of one-shotting him with a thrown stone at mach-speed,
the EMP would be the safest, fastest and basically the only option that a person with atleast average intellect would use as Plan A

Again, why on earth would Worse need an EMP when she can just show her face and shoot him right away? Accel switched off his reflection WILIINGLY the moment he saw her face, plenty of time to kill him right away if that was what she wanted.

to ensure a successful mission she was send to kill LO, obviously accelerator would stop her,
it is true that her face was a possible option, but what if, if accel simply took LO and flew away? how should he stop him than? or what if, if he deflects all attacks and lets all physical punches slip to the side without allowing her to get injured? or what if, if he makes himself and LO invisible and walks away?

all this are options that could happen too, and the safest way to ensure nothing like that happens is by using a EMP and making accel powerless...

I'm not even going to go into why the big ball of ego that was Kakine did not use an EMP. He was NEVER an efficient person because he didn't need to be.

...there i can agree, true, he would mostlikely not even use the EMP even if he had one...

See in the other instance where people did target the choker specifically, even if they didn't have to use complicated methods, you ignore it because it wasn't EMP. You admitted being fine with them targeting other weaknesses. Just because it is the biggest weakness, doesn't mean every villain NEED to take advantage of it when they have much more interesting methods that works just as well.

only komaba targetted the choker, and shiage tried it but failed,
any other time people ignored that glaring weakness and no, the other methods dont work as good as the EMP, because they give accel time to run away or create a countermeasure, a EMP would make him powerless immediately...

Say if Worse kept the mask on and just EMPed and shot Accel, would it create the same impact compared to the actual scene? No it wouldn't. The story needs its drama, being perfectly logical at every turn does not make a compelling story.

i wont argue against that, i never talked about the impact of a scene, only that enemys look stupid for not using obviously better methods that could even result in a easier victory + no effects on their actual plan...

PS: i got reminded of the other only scenario where the villian actually first used the "choker weakness" and than after it failed he changed to plan b and used the more risky way of fighting,
it was (i think) in OT19 against this guy who copied kihara counter but didnt master it, he was the one group fought against right before they reached the infos about aiwass...

that guy did it right, it wasnt a EMP but he at least used the choker, unfortunatly accel already created a counter agaisnt that particular trick

but this isnt new to storytelling, it happens everywhere where the enemy has a weakness known to the enemys and isnt used...

Not in the sense that it MUST be vulnerable to EMPs.

actually it does...

And the perfect starting point to drive Accel's emotion to its tipping point would be turning off the choker. Well unless you just walk away right after and don't do anything else. Not very villain like if you ask me, more like a prankster.

or a professional doing his job :/
i know that it wouldnt become a story with tension if such methods are used, i never tried to say anything like that...

The choker is a physical reminder of his debts towards the Sisters. It is an important part of his characterization. It strengthens the connection between him and the Sisters. It gave the Board a way of taming him for most of OT. People like Aleister can still cut him out of the network. Sure, for the sake of argument I guess he can completely recover and still feel remorseful, but it would definitely not be as compelling to watch as it is now, even if the fight stayed completely the same. Also it adds excitement as Accel constantly fights against the clock and come up with various methods of upgrading the equipment, showing us he can plan ahead and can do more than just fighting.

OT13 and OT 19 are the only times where the equipment mattered,
the timespan was always a issue against challenging enemys but not that immense,

anyway, i agree, it does add to the excitement, but i do think he would still be the same even if that headshot didnt happen, it was still a nice move of kamachi...