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Originally Posted by james0246
All I see are the sound effects coming out of the eye that starts Izanagi. And when an eye makes a sound in Naruto, something is going down. The same eye makes a sound on page 3, then a more dramatic sound on page 4. Maybe you are correct and Page 4 was supposed to be the specific start of the technique, but Kishimoto can easily retcon the situation so page 3 is the official start.
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There are no sound effects in the panel on page 3, just exclamation marks. The sound effect is on the frame on page 4 that I referenced. And yes, Kishi could retcon anything with an asspull, but until then the frame on page 3 is clearly an example of the regular Sharingan being enough to have something pass through Tobi.
EDIT: I thought I'd clarify something because why not: I fully believe that Tobi
is using the exact same Mangekyou Sharingan jutsu Kakashi normally uses in this chapter. It seems to me, based on what's been shown in the manga, that Obito's eyes have a special ability they can use without the Mangekyou Sharingan and another related one that requires it.
Normal Sharingan: The ability to transfer one's own body or things directly touching it between the physical world and the other dimension. This is what Tobi has been using every time we've seen him up until this battle.
Mangekyou Sharingan ("Kamui"): The ability to transfer things between the physical world and the other dimension without physically touching them, even from a distance. This is what Kakashi has been using since after the time skip. Tobi has already used Kamui during this fight to fire the giant shurikens and stakes (since he clearly wasn't holding those things in his hands before they were transferred). Tobi is indeed showing Kakashi the "real power of Kamui" by using it this way, since Kakashi has only managed to use Kamui to send things
to the other dimension, not bring them back.