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Old 2013-11-27, 07:01   Link #33259
GreyZone
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You know, the existence of "Beatrice" has been foreshadowed in every game multiple times. In the murder case that is also the title of the murderer. So while the murderer's 'real identity' is "Beatrice, The Ushiromiya family's Alchemist, the Golden Witch and the 2nd Master of Rokkenjima", the names "Shannon" and "Kanon" are just aliases. I got a nice quote for that:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kill Bill vol. 2 - Bill
Now, a staple of the superhero mythology is, there’s the superhero and there’s the alter ego. Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker. When that character wakes up in the morning, he’s Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become Spider-Man. And it is in that characteristic Superman stands alone.

Superman didn’t become Superman. Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he’s Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red “S” – that’s the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears – the glasses, the business suit – that’s the costume. That’s the costume Superman wears to blend in with us.
The murderer's case shares some similarities with Superman's situation from that quote. That is also essential for satisfying Van Dine's "the culprit is not a servant".


Also about red truth: If there is one thing that Umineko conveyed right, then it is the endless possibilities of twisting words. So if you claim once something is said in red, the opposite is impossible, then I claim the opposite and construct such a supposed "contradiction":
1. The red truth "Battler is dead" is false.
However:
2. The red truth "Battler is dead" is true.

"1." uses the interpretation that Battler's physical body lives on as Hachijou Tohya.

"2." uses the interpretation that no one (that is part of the story) identifies themselves as "Battler" at the time of that statement and as we know in the language of the witches' battle, "dead" can refer to the psychological view instead of the physical one.
Another possible interpretation is that "Battler" refers to Asumu's stillborn child that most likely had the same name.
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