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Old 2013-08-20, 20:34   Link #32853
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Originally Posted by DokEnkephalin View Post
which makes 'Confessions' even less plausible due to her invitation to Dlanor
What exactly about Our Confession is it exactly that makes it doubtworthy? Your argument reads a little like somebody deliberately ignoring an episode in a TV series because it goes against their personal understanding or preference concerning that series. Our Confession was written by Ryukishi, released under the When They Cry label, advertised as being canon to Umineko...so no matter whether you like it or not it is canon (or you could just start tossing out any of the TIPs at random).

Concerning the Flauros discussion, she is technically the same as Gaap as well as the Chiesters or Zepar and Furfur concerning that she personifies both a concept and an item. She is the explosion that rips apart the study in the Confession plot and her vessel are the explosives.

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Isn't there enough distinction between an item that serves as a vessel for fantasy beings who aren't relevant to the mystery and a person who isn't introduced as a character?
On the level of foreshadowing in a mystery, there isn't any distinction.
A certain element of distortion is important in most mysteries and as long as a character is introduced early on but alluded to even through apparently unconnected parts in the story, it would be the readers goal to make that connection.
Technically the mention of the possibility of a "secret heir" is the introduction of a character, be it a dead one or a living one. Also Beatrice in EP3 mentions that it is her who inherited all the gold from Kinzo, there is mention of her being the "master of the mansion at night", the servants never addressing their "master" by name.

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The 'roulette game' behind the epitaph is repeatedly emphasized by Claire/Beatrice in EP 7.
The roulette doesn't mean though that Beatrice will stay completely inactive, if that was the case nothing would happen at all. It is rather that she leaves it up to chance who will carry out what role. Who might run into her during the first day when she meets Maria? Which people are in an unobserved spot during the first night? Are there enough people to stage the first twilight without her dying as well? Does anybody solve the epitaph? etc.

And yes, she would have stopped if anybody found the gold, which is shown by EP7. This is certification that somebody else continued the murders in EP3. Who that person is is yours to choose, I think it was Nanjo, others think it was Eva, again others blame Kyrie (though that is pretty much ruled out by the EP8 manga), yet it is made very clear, even on the fantasy-plane, that it is not Beatrice/Yasu continuing the murders. In EP2 on the other hand it can only be her.
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