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Old 2012-09-06, 07:54   Link #114
Micropod
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Originally Posted by Hagoshod View Post
But you're completely wrong.
You know 207B's cadets were using their assigned training machines and wearing their trainee outfits when they did end up getting quickly shoved onto the battlefield in an unexpected emergency before they graduated in Alternative, not issued non-training TSFs meant for live combat, unlike Yui's squad who have now been issued the proper Imperial Royal Guard machines and suits which are issued to actual graduated officers?

You know 207B's cadets later got to graduate despite still being trainees who haven't even completed their training, and were subsequently not using training units and trainee outfits, serving as an example that under extraordinary circumstances (though the circumstances are different for 207B and for Yui's squad) you can be a graduate without having completed your training?

You know how it was pointed out that Yui's squad are no longer using the training TSFs and outfits and now have their color-coded non-trainee machines and outfits issued already by the time the BETA showed up all of a sudden, which indicates that they have in fact been commissioned? If they were still complete cadets without a commission, they'd be sitting in their training Gekishins wearing their cadet suits. Yui's squad's and 207B's situations are not comparable.

Did you read any of what was written? At all?

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Originally Posted by DoomRavager
Judging by comments on their lack of experience, I'm guessing that either their graduation was rushed with the imminent invasion, or that's a reference to the simple fact that training really does not end upon graduation and new graduates really generally don't have any battlefield experience to speak of, as well as how the dedicated anti-BETA part of the training curriculum is all shoved in right at the end which would mean they haven't had as much time for that bit to sink in. I quote also the wiki "only soldiers and Eishi that have been officially commisioned are allowed to see the true forms of the BETA which are classified at the highest level to anyone else", and they're certainly already familiar with how BETA look and how Destroyers are meant to be fought.
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Originally Posted by Wild Goose
As for Yui's unit, it looks as though training has been truncated, and they've lumped all the nuggets together into a squadron to be lead by a senior pilot, instead of carefully parceling them out to squadrons with experienced pilots - probably because they need the Kyoto defenders at their best, and having the defenders defend Kyoto and babysit nuggets would be a nightmare. This actually did happen with German and Japanese pilots towards the end of WW2, sending squadrons full of quickly commissioned nuggets up against experienced American pilots. So yeah, it does look alot like Izumi's already commissioned.
Already addresses the issue with the comments on their lack of experience and/or full training, which you have not provided any direct rebuttal to, besides a couple of screenshots saying "WELL YOUR TRAINING AIN'T COMPLETE", which has itself was being demonstrated as not a yardstick by which graduation status can be reliably measured under pressuring circumstances. You also failed to address the question of the fact that they were not using cadet equipment and reinforced suits unlike the actually hastily scrambled 207B, they were using the machines and suits that were specifically mentioned as being the ones that get issued to graduated pilots.

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Originally Posted by Hagoshod
She wouldn't have to worry about already being enlisted in the IRG officer's school if Yuuhi personally discharged her.
Where did you get the idea that this is about mere formalities and technicalities on paper about who's on what list of cadets?

Anyway, she's graduated.

Why am I even arguing about this when I just wanted to sit back and chuckle along with everyone else at the fact that you have effectively no clue what you're talking about?

Last edited by Micropod; 2012-09-06 at 21:45.
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