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Originally Posted by grey_moon

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Spoiler:

Hina's powers were not all that sucky when she went postal on Shinku, also both Shinku and Bara handled the vines and violin pretty well in the last battle. I think there is not enough info to state how much a Rosa Mystica effects each dolls attacks. From what I have seen it seems to be various attributes:
The doll and their passion
Where they are
If they have a medium and the medium themselves
If they have gained any Rosa Mysticas - Although I can't decide does that just gives them their oponents powers and memories or does it boost their powers too.

I can't see why Jun is so sucky, hes like a fusion reactor, who has been approved by Shinku to be her servant, are you saying that you know better then Shinku?? Also if you are refering to him stopping her killing Bara, what do you think Shinku would have felt like if she did kill her out of anger?

Spoiler for Power discussion + why Jun sucks:

I maintain that Hina's power set is terrible and that the only reason why she's able to bind Shinku is because a) they're on Hina's N-field and Shinku doesn't have any backup, which means that she has to use personal energy to deal with Hina's zerg swarm (as opposed to when they invaded Suigin Tou's field and brought helpers) and b) I don't recall that Shinku was trying terribly hard to hurt Hina, just perhaps discipline her, while Hina was defending almost all out.

Vines aren't awful, it's just that due to the nature of the Alice Game, alot of the fighting took place outside in N-fields, where flying and the general openness removed many of the advantages that vine attacks provided (that being lockdown and control). Inside that building for the last fight, the vines could actually do some good.

As for Jun, yes I'm referring to the end when he stopped Shinku. Without the not quite Deus Ex Machina reset (and if you're Jun, it's not something you could have known about beforehand), you have a choice between Shinku winning, but feeling pretty terrible about everything and Shinku going back to her pacifist self and getting stabbed in the gut by Barasuishou. I don't know about you, but if I'm in that situation, I choose a live, emotionally scarred Shinku (who can recouperate someday) over a dead Shinku.