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Old 2010-08-26, 04:59   Link #8784
SaintessHeart
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Originally Posted by Seitsuki View Post
Overall the situation you guys are pondering is if the political equation has to be factored in. If America was hypothetically to strike but also had to please the audience back home and abroad, then yes there will be a crapload of problems. But should it turn into a war of survival, which would probably end up happening if Iran did end up acquiring nukes, then Iran stands no chance full stop. It would still be a pretty hard fight though now.
Supposedly they have been trying to trying to acquire F-5 Tiger II engines (according to a number of intelligence agencies) from Malaysia. I don't know if this is another blame game or demonising, but if that is true, it pretty much spells trouble for us.

They have been supplying Hezbollah for years with rocketry and artillery. Their denial is pathetic as the modern CIA's when Israeli naval commandos captured tons of explosives on board a cargo frieghter bound for Palestine : the boxes still have "Ministry of Sepah" (the Iranian Ministry of Defence) labels on them.

Though one of the arms raised suspicions on whether this is a PR operation by Mossad / Shin Bet - 106mm AP shells. These are meant for recoilless rifles like the US M40, and it is not known if Iran is supplied with such arms during the Shah era.

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Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness View Post
don't worry about the S300 - its already got a counter weapon system.
if need be, it can be removed with relative ease and without losses to the air force attacking them.
provided, of course, that the one doing the removing was committed to an all out war and not a single on shot strike against specific targets (which is the only reason why its a concern right now).
Countering AA battery strategies are always a job for light infantry and commando teams. AA walls are usually neutralised by fast moving light infantry inserted rapidly around the flanks of the site then quickly taken with decisive losses. Hidden AA emplacements are taken out by S&D commando teams, similar to the Scud hunting teams like Bravo Two Zero in Gulf War 1. Iranian soldiers aren't badly trained like Iraqi or Afghan soldiers, they can fight hard enough to incur heavy losses on the assaulting light infantry force that they are unable to mount a successful defence until reinforcements arrive, or get enough time to blow all the AA defences.

I am not exactly sure if Shrike missiles work against the search radars of the SAM launchers - I seriously doubt they did since it is a rather modern piece of AA equipment.

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they were up against Iraq last time.
not a modern western army like the US army.
desert storm showed just how poorly trained, equipped, and demoralized Iraq's army was, and that war between Iran and Iraq lasted for years. (albiet, with western support for Iraq)
The two major military powers in ME are Israel and Iran. Iran has a larger fighting force inclusive of paramilitary like the Basij and IRGC. Israel has better intelligence, however it is no match for sheer military force should the other Muslim states around it allow free access to invade Israel.
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