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defiant
2005-09-23, 16:00
After watching ep 10 I have a doubt

Is Sia aware of Kyouko before meeting again with Rin, or after? I have the impression after seen ep 10 that she doesnt know about her other self.

What do you think?
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Xellos-_^
2005-09-23, 16:16
After watching ep 10 I have a doubt

Is Sia aware of Kyouko before meeting again with Rin, or after? I have the impression after seen ep 10 that she doesnt know about her other self.

What do you think?

In the game she knows.
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pureebear
2005-09-23, 19:40
so ur telling me that kaedae doesnt end up with rin in the game, novels or manga, is it really true!!!! plz tell
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Riker
2005-09-23, 20:04
so ur telling me that kaedae doesnt end up with rin in the game, novels or manga, is it really true!!!! plz tell

In the game you choose which girl you want to be with. There are multiple endings.

For novels, there is one for each character. Not sure how they end though.
I think the manga hasn't ended yet?
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Li Jianliang
2005-09-23, 23:50
Kyouko
How did it turn into 'Kyouko'...?! It's Kikyou.

Now, I've a few questions on the multiple endings regarding who Rin ends up with (as in marrying), since:

If Rin chooses a girl other than Sia/Nerine, there's this scene where he supposedly appologizes to Shin/Maou.

But instead of getting the a$$whooping he expected, the gods party, and then proceed to assume that Rin's going to rule all 3 worlds. (i.e. he'll take Sia, Nerine AND whoever he chose...)

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Now here's the question:

How many people end up marrying Rin in each ending?
Yeah, crazy three-wife allowance of the God & Demon Worlds...
Rin doesn't end up marrying anyone... The game just ends with him having decided on one girl and the girl free of her past troubles in each ending.

Lyrics for Tick! Tack! Opening Theme (short version). They're tentative and done by ear & such...

Be Ambitious, Guys!
Vocals: Hashimoto Miyuki
Lyrics: AlAi
Composition: Acchorike
Arrangement: Suzuki Masaki

Ichido-kiri no kichou na omoide dakara
Afurete mo Koborete mo Baribari shiawase tsukanjaimashou

Nanika o hoshigaru sono kirei na kimochi ga
Kimi o sasaetsuzukeru gendouryoku Kizuiteru kai?
Nandaka tonde mo nai bamen no naka de mo
Sou ari no mama no kimi de ite yo Yakusoku da yo

Dejitaru ja nakya konasenai Sonna toki mo maa aru kedo
Insupireeshon da to ka fiiringu da to ka Nee Sou iu no ga ichiban daiji da yo ne

Ichido-kiri no kichou na omoide dakara
Koishite mo Yumemite mo Merihari tsukete ikou jan ka
Daitan na kurai ga choudo ii yo Tabun
Afurete mo Koborete mo Baribari shiawase tsukanjaimashou

Be Ambitious, Guys!

Because it's only once a precious memory
So even if it'd overflow, even if it'd spill, let's actively grasp the happiness

Your beautiful feelings want something-
Have you noticed the motivating power that keeps supporting you?
Even if you're somehow in an unexpected situation
Please still be as you are- that's a promise

'If it's not digital then you can't handle it'; there are times like that
But maybe an inspiration or feelings- hey, they are the most important

Because it's only once a precious memory
So even if you'd fall in love, even if you'd have dreams, shall we have musical pitches?
Being as so daring is just right, probably
Even if it'd overflow, even if it'd spill, let's actively grasp the happiness

...You know, we can really use a new and separate Tick! Tack! topic here.
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Decagon
2005-09-26, 13:39
As Nerine is the daughter of Forbesii and Sage, therefore something has to happen to her if history is changed, right? Well, she did, depending on how u change history, the normal Nerine will turn to either:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4...knerine5bs.jpg

Nerine(pink) and

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/3...inerine8ug.jpg

Nerine(loli)

That's so much for Tick! Tack! spoilers... and my first post in animesuki

If Nerine became loli, what age would that make Primula?

... . .

Hey, when Nerine changes, do her memories with Rin change?
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shaolinx
2005-09-26, 13:51
so in tick tack game, rin suppously ended up wit nerine and they went back into the past? then rin goes around pimpin and nerine charactertisic changes? that would mean her memories changes also, cuz the pink/loli nerine would never meet rin cuz they dont got 2 personilities like blue nerine.

but that also means that they wouldve never went back in time, so rin could never change time... wow this is confusing
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Last_Hope
2005-09-26, 15:25
so in tick tack game, rin suppously ended up wit nerine and they went back into the past? then rin goes around pimpin and nerine charactertisic changes? that would mean her memories changes also, cuz the pink/loli nerine would never meet rin cuz they dont got 2 personilities like blue nerine.

but that also means that they wouldve never went back in time, so rin could never change time... wow this is confusing

Would it be to much trouble to ask you to explain that again?

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shaolinx
2005-09-26, 18:27
Would it be to much trouble to ask you to explain that again?

iam confused as u are

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Nvis
2005-09-26, 20:58
What happened to Ama's husband/ Asa's father? He doesn't seem to be living with them( ie. Kaede's father).

And just what is Ama hiding under her cap?
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evil-samurai
2005-09-26, 22:27
Dont people want to be suprized..??... ---So many questions...

That Nerine loli looks alot younger than Primula, comparing those two picture in Decagon post, she looks around 8-9 years old

dreamless@ Yes I know they are meant to be 18+ -- But they sure dont look it.
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dreamless
2005-09-27, 02:26
well, as kj1980 pointed out, the loli Nerine is supposed to be 18+ years old, just like Primula... and everyone else in Shuffle...
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PGilis
2005-09-27, 07:25
Well, even thought in Ero-BGames all the characters in sexual activity are aged 18 y.o. or older, and loli-Nerine is clearly under 18, that don't means she will have sex with Rin.

In many light-themed bgames, do exist pure-love endings without sex with a girl, especially if she had something different than most characters. Probably in TICK TACK too, Rin will be forced to wait 5 or 6 years before he can do something nasty with loli-Nerine.

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Riker
2005-09-27, 07:34
Probably in TICK TACK too, Rin will be forced to wait 5 or 6 years before he can do something nasty with loli-Nerine.

Erm, from what I have seen, Rin was impatient. >.>
Edit : Added spoiler tags. >_<
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PGilis
2005-09-27, 07:50
...

Itsuki was right! Rin, you LOLIPEDO-FIN!!

@Riker

Enough spoilers without tags, please. I was planning to buy TICK TACK!

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dreamless
2005-09-27, 08:53
Well, even thought in Ero-BGames all the characters in sexual activity are aged 18 y.o. or older, and loli-Nerine is clearly under 18, that don't means she will have sex with Rin.
well, loli-Nerine already had sex with Rin in the game... multiple times...

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evil-samurai
2005-09-27, 09:27
well, loli-Nerine already had sex with Rin in the game... multiple times...

Mabye its just those two shots i was comparing that make loli-Nerine look so young, otherwise even more people are going to have a problem with this game

(imo)
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Kyaa the Catlord
2005-09-27, 12:44
Question: does anyone else get a yuri vibe off Kareha? Oh my my!

Its just her reaction to the waitresses and the uniforms that are making my alarms buzz.
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Riker
2005-09-27, 14:18
About Sia's and Nerine's dad, don't you think that the ruler of gods and the ruler of demons respectively have way too much free time?
It's like they don't have much responsibilities as a ruler.

Also, you don't see any servants at their house.
In Tick Tack there's a maid(Sage) and a butler(Bark).
I mean, they look like the average household rather than royalties.

Oh, and is there a specific reason why they didn't bring their wives along with them?

Just wondering if the game addresses any of my question. :x
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Cloudnine
2005-09-27, 19:16
Oh, and is there a specific reason why they didn't bring their wives along with them?
The exact same reason why you never see Kaede's father~ It's all done for convenience ^^; Something you'll see very often in ero-game ports~
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Decagon
2005-09-27, 20:08
Mabye its just those two shots i was comparing that make loli-Nerine look so young, otherwise even more people are going to have a problem with this game

(imo)As someone who has only seen the cg, I can say that if I had a daughter that looked that young, I wouldn't let even let her date. Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure all her cg is um... well... NSFW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSFW) .
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eMpTy265
2005-09-27, 22:37
About Sia's and Nerine's dad, don't you think that the ruler of gods and the ruler of demons respectively have way too much free time?
It's like they don't have much responsibilities as a ruler.

Also, you don't see any servants at their house.
In Tick Tack there's a maid(Sage) and a butler(Bark).
I mean, they look like the average household rather than royalties.

Oh, and is there a specific reason why they didn't bring their wives along with them?

Just wondering if the game addresses any of my question. :x

Well, maybe it's because the two worlds have been at peace for more than 18 years, and chances are they've had time to build their societies.

Also, the fact that Rin's the next ruler of the shin/demon realm requires the existing rulers to keep an eye on him (maybe...)

Add the convenient fact that Primula's living in Rin's house, and

the fact that she's the ultimate magical vessel, said to hold the key to the future of both realms

Basically the two rulers have every excuse to take a holiday in the human realm.

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BTW, in the manga Sia's moms pay a visit in volume 3(?), and Kaede's dad also returns for a chapter. So they're around, just probably too busy to interfere with the lives of their children.

so in tick tack game, rin suppously ended up wit nerine and they went back into the past? then rin goes around pimpin and nerine charactertisic changes? that would mean her memories changes also, cuz the pink/loli nerine would never meet rin cuz they dont got 2 personilities like blue nerine.

but that also means that they wouldve never went back in time, so rin could never change time... wow this is confusing

So basically you're concerned with the paradoxes that might have been created by Rin 'time travelling...

Well... it depends on what philosophy the directors decide to adopt for the game.

I'm not sure how Nerine changes in the game, but if Nerine actually travels with Rin, AND is affected by his decisions, I don't think the parallel world theory would work well.

Since the player's choices are affecting the fate of Nerine, I suppose it could be something like this:

1.) Basically Rin's choice was already determined before things happened, and thus Rin's time travelling doesn't cause a paradox.

(i.e. It was determined that Rin would have time travel, and perform whatever changes that he would have done. That being said, Nerine's change was also predetermined. [Whether it would be that Nerine => Pink Nerine, or not changing at all])

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Problems with the above theory: If it was predetermined that Nerine would change, then how/why did Rin first meet with Nerine?

(i.e. If the player didn't pick a route that resulted in normal Nerine, then how did Rin meet Nerine & time travel back?)

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Possible escapes:

1.) Blue Nerine is the true ending, and the other endings are merely possible worlds... (but then again possible worlds are as real as our world isn't it?)
2.) The Blue Nerine world was but an illusion created in order for the player to live out the real world. Once Rin made the decisions that altered Nerine, the illusional world disappeared, and everything became what it was at the end of the game.

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(Reads my post... realizes that I've gone crazy again...

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Encoder
2005-09-28, 00:25
The game is magic, time does not exist in this game. 1 second of Sia's life equals 1 day of Rin's life <---------read this in a myth book once.
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Decagon
2005-09-28, 12:16
The game is magic, time does not exist in this game. 1 second of Sia's life equals 1 day of Rin's life <---------read this in a myth book once.
Um, does that take into fact their first meeting when they were both kids? Plus, it's not like the shinzoku/mazoku are elves. They just have floppy ears and magic.
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Vexx
2005-09-29, 02:50
After going through all this material,,,,, I'm kind of appalled they didn't sign up for a 52 episode run. There are some *amazing* plot threads to explore here...
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Decagon
2005-09-29, 02:59
After going through all this material,,,,, I'm kind of appalled they didn't sign up for a 52 episode run. There are some *amazing* plot threads to explore here...The thing is that people would probably lose interest if it were to run for a year. Point one: the broadcaster is one of those channels you pay for, and it would potentially make it harder to make Rin decide on one girl if they spent enough time to pursue every girl's path to a fuller extent--plus, by the time they got to the last character, the viewer would probably forget everything about the first few girls. Remember 52 eps generally = 1 year.
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shaolinx
2005-09-30, 00:55
omg, i think tick tack would be considered illegal in the states and many other countries b/c of the content. (ie. loli nerine + rin)

anywho, 52 eps would make it too boring. Ichigo 100% lost all its greatness after 10 vols of the manga. but a ova / sequal would be nice

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Decagon
2005-09-30, 03:28
omg, i think tick tack would be considered illegal in the states and many other countries b/c of the content. (ie. loli nerine + rin)Since we haven't been explicitly told how old Nerine is, we wouldn't "know" (

) how old loli-Nerine is, regardless of what age bracket she obviously falls into.

Remember with these things it's only illegal if you think it's illegal. And the only way you would think it's illegal is if you have a really dirty mind

.
Or a really sensible one,

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Wrath88
2005-09-30, 06:05
anywho, 52 eps would make it too boring. Ichigo 100% lost all its greatness after 10 vols of the manga. but a ova / sequal would be nice

Too long would mean a lot of ideas are required, not to mention that after a while people start to lose interest. Naruto is over 100 eps long, but thats with the introduction of more than 30 characters. Shuffle! only has 5 girls, one guy, and about 3 other side characters that are of any interest. So of course, they have to keep it short for this anime.

That's not to say ovas and sequels aren't bad. In fact, having them is a very good idea

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Vexx
2005-09-30, 17:40
The thing is that people would probably lose interest if it were to run for a year. Point one: the broadcaster is one of those channels you pay for, and it would potentially make it harder to make Rin decide on one girl if they spent enough time to pursue every girl's path to a fuller extent--plus, by the time they got to the last character, the viewer would probably forget everything about the first few girls. Remember 52 eps generally = 1 year.

You're probably right .. or at least you're voicing what the producers/broadcasters think. I think they usually underestimate their audience (in the US, there are more fundamental reasons why the television audience is shirinking like a punctured balloon - make shows for the stupid and only the stupid watch). Since Shuffle! is R-15+ I would *hope* the target audience is capable of holding a few ideas in their head for an extended duration

But... given the way many of these series are structured (i.e. running the relationship threads in sequential rather than in parallel form), it would be a bit difficult to recall details from 15 or 20 episodes ago. It would be nice to see Shuffle! storyboarded in parallel arcs rather than sequential arcs. More realistic and more of a race... though I think they're going to miss an opportunity here for a groundbreaking solution not available in the game.

Ah well...
I've been told the commercial purpose of the anime is to get you to buy the manga and all the merchandise (shocking, eh?

).
So my Eeyore-sense says the series will end with no real change of status. Rin will have a pack of girls orbiting him and we'll see a few OVAs profiling his relationship with a selected young lady and maybe a resolution. We can hope for something more challenging and completed in the manga.

Ichigo (much as I liked the character design and a lot of the bits) was broken from the start because of just flat poor storyboarding in the anime and the manga suffered from "soap opera never-enditis" and was wrapped up very abruptly.
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ToshioRyu
2005-10-04, 02:47
umm i was wondering how come AnimeUniverse skipped eps 10 and released eps 11 instead? will they be doing eps 10?
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Vexx
2005-10-04, 02:53
umm i was wondering how come AnimeUniverse skipped eps 10 and released eps 11 instead? will they be doing eps 10?

Discussed in the episode threads 10 and 11 -- in a nutshell: the team working ep 11 got done first while ep 10 got hung up on some subtleties of translation. They went ahead and released 11 "for the good of the community" since many people had seen 10 from the other groups. They are still working on 10 and have said they'll release it as soon as it is ready.

I rather like their freewheeling translation --- it includes dialog that fits right in with how it might be said with Western slang and metaphor.

Froth and Kaz are doing more 'straight" translations -- more helpful if you're trying to actually listen to the language and learn a bit of it.
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ToshioRyu
2005-10-05, 20:27
Thanks for that i didn't know what was going on... there site wasn't even working when i tried to find out.
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Koryu
2005-10-08, 19:57
hey guys, im currently looking for episode 10 and episode 11 torrents for shuffle!. it seems that froth bite doesn't have it and when i try downloading the one who has them, they seem to be not working. so...can someone help me look for one?

edit: nvm, found the torrents.

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Vexx
2005-10-09, 02:18
animeU just released their version of ep 10 .... froth-bite's version is still in the pipeline.

For ep 11, currently only animeU is out ...
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kenshinflyer
2005-10-10, 00:41
This is my first entry here at the AnimeSuki forums, and it's because of one thing: SHUFFLE! Too bad there's Trinity Blood to lull me to sleep, making me miss the midnight SHUFFLE airing on WOWOW...that's why I come to AnimeSuki to get the lowdown...

Speaking of which (I hope it doesn't violate anything), I'm not asking for an exadt date, but is a group now fansubbing the latest SHUFFLE episode? Just asking.

Hm, as for the show itself, I say I pity poor Kaede-chan--here's Tsuchimi Rin, living in her house (because I think she's his landlady), and also his personal alarm clock, but she can't manage to tell her exact feelings... But if that won't happen, I'd go for Lisianthus!
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kenshinflyer
2005-10-10, 00:42
This is my first entry here at the AnimeSuki forums, and it's because of one thing: SHUFFLE! Too bad there's Trinity Blood to lull me to sleep, making me miss the midnight SHUFFLE airing on WOWOW...that's why I come to AnimeSuki to get the lowdown...

Speaking of which (I hope it doesn't violate anything), I'm not asking for an exact date, but is a group now fansubbing the latest SHUFFLE episode? Just asking.

Hm, as for the show itself, I say I pity poor Kaede-chan--here's Tsuchimi Rin, living in her house (because I think she's his landlady), and also his personal alarm clock, but she can't manage to tell her exact feelings... But if that won't happen, I'd go for Lisianthus!
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Cloudnine
2005-10-10, 01:42
^^^

Yes, there are 3 main groups subbing Shuffle! at the latest episodes~

Froth-Bite
KazenokoeFansubs (KnKF)
AnimeU

http://animesuki.sandwich.net/series.php/623.html
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Vexx
2005-10-10, 09:26
AnimeU tends to get their sub out first, but each of the 3 groups listed by Cloudnine have advantages to their styles of translation, subtitling, and OP/ED handling.

I've been recommending people look at a sample of each before deciding which group to follow.

Myself, I lean towards Froth-bite because of their work on Mahoraba and their files seem to be "brighter/sharper" on my computer, but occasionally I'm finding I like AnimeU's translation style (looser but getting the spirit of the conversation nicely) and sometimes KnKF seems to have a less stilted translation. I also like the fatter fonts and those with colors signifying the speaker.
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Monchan
2005-10-10, 21:35
How much does the Shuffle! Game cost?
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kenshinflyer
2005-10-10, 23:41
AnimeU tends to get their sub out first, but each of the 3 groups listed by Cloudnine have advantages to their styles of translation, subtitling, and OP/ED handling.

I've been recommending people look at a sample of each before deciding which group to follow.

Myself, I lean towards Froth-bite because of their work on Mahoraba and their files seem to be "brighter/sharper" on my computer, but occasionally I'm finding I like AnimeU's translation style (looser but getting the spirit of the conversation nicely) and sometimes KnKF seems to have a less stilted translation. I also like the fatter fonts and those with colors signifying the speaker.

Yes, I agree with that. I've tried fansubs from KazeNoKoe and AnimeU, they did the subbing well. I just obtained a fansub from Froth-Bite, and I'll check it out later.

And, oh, I'm currently d/loading Shuffle ep 12. I slept during the WOWOW airing...and I can't wait to see it...especially the thing about the mysterious Primula.
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Cloudnine
2005-10-11, 00:00
How much does the Shuffle! Game cost? It's around $80 bucks on Himeya. You can get it off of amazon.jp for ￥7800 at amazon.jp

Or~ you can try to find it elsewhere... but then Sia will cry at the fact that you didn't buy the game ;_;
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Monchan
2005-10-11, 00:17
$80 Bucks!? FOr this game? Wow, I thought that this game would sell at a regular $50. Also, it isn't that knew, so I though ti ti would be like atleast $40 by now!!!
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Vexx
2005-10-11, 02:52
You are confused by the pricing... "$50" is only a typical price for a game released in the USA. The typical price for games in Japan is $80 (or about 7800 yen depending on the currency exchange). You are also assuming the sort of price discount that happens in the States. This is a foreign (i.e. Japanese) game ... um, it also means that the game itself is *in* Japanese (no subtitles) and requires your computer's operating systems to be set to the Japan Region locale and possibly some fonts installed. The $80 dollars is kind of pricey by our standards, *particularly* when you consider these sort of games are really just fancy Zork/Adventure type text games with pretty pictures, music, and voice acting.

It would be interesting to see what a game like HalfLife sells for in Japan.
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dreamless
2005-10-11, 03:03
And usually they are without voice acting and not nearly the interactivity of Zork/Adventure type games... the "gameplay" just consists of occassionally selecting text menus... they are "visual novels" with next to nil gameplay and only story and pictures...
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Rawr
2005-10-11, 03:41
Since I can't see text in the games, I wish Rin had a voice so I could keep up better with whats going on :/
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kira_lacusXX
2005-10-17, 22:30
i was reading the episode 13 discussion thread and someone mentioned asa is an experiment [or something] and the faint at the beach had something to do with it...i asked for an explanation [because asa is too cool] but none answered until someone told me to try this thread...sooo anyone know and want to explain to me?
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Xellos-_^
2005-10-17, 22:37
i was reading the episode 13 discussion thread and someone mentioned asa is an experiment [or something] and the faint at the beach had something to do with it...i asked for an explanation [because asa is too cool] but none answered until someone told me to try this thread...sooo anyone know and want to explain to me?

Try looking for my post on page 3.
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BrokenWingz
2005-10-22, 20:44
No idea, they haven't given any indication of who he is in the anime yet, and I don't know about his appearance in the game, but I don't think he exists there.
Maybe he's a mastermind behind all the attacks on Rin.

Just realized, this is for episode 14, this should be in the Q&A section.
Well~~~another thinking bout it for a while, i remembered that he was in Ep 1, during when Rin/Kaede was walking to school which was before the RRR/SSS was formed, thus coming to a conclusion of him being either KKK or Rin fanboy

jk jk
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Nightwisher
2005-10-24, 13:11

i do by the way wonder if the makers of the game (and therefore anime more or less knowing) added Sia's Chair as a cheer for Munchkin Fu's 'Folding Chair of Retribution'
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Vexx
2005-10-24, 13:44
Dunno... but her "Magic Chair of Smiting" reminds me of some of the weapons in World of Warcraft (appear on demand). And don't forget, apparently she can summon a "Wrench of Despair" if she's really pissed (according to a statement she made -- something along the lines of "Don't make me summon the Wrench!"

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ZGMF-X10A
2005-10-24, 22:53
I was wondering "Does the ribbon every girl is wearing something important or significant?"... or is it just a fasion trend... O.o
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Vexx
2005-10-26, 03:15
I was wondering "Does the ribbon every girl is wearing something important or significant?"... or is it just a fasion trend... O.o

I'm going to take a wild leap here, based on the Asa & Rin conversation in ep 14, and bet the ribbons are an allusion to the bonds people create with each other.

In Japanese culture, the *bonds* between people seem to be more important than whether they were good or bad -- the memories that make those bonds are really the only things that transcend the impermanence of all things. So think of them as fancy memory "reminders" if naught else. Every ribbon worn seems to be a memory of something for the wearer (so far.. we haven't gotten many of the backstories yet).
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Princess_of_Hell
2005-10-27, 13:00
What is inner Sia's name anyways? I know it can't be Sia.

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Riker
2005-10-27, 13:07
What is inner Sia's name anyways? I know it can't be Sia.

She doesn't actually have a name yet at this point of time in the anime.
She is given the name, Kikyou, by Rin near the end of her path in the game.
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Monchan
2005-10-27, 21:47
Does the Demon side of Sia also love Rin?
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Li Jianliang
2005-10-27, 23:17
Does the Demon side of Sia also love Rin?
She is not Sia's demon side. Kikyou is Sia's sister and happens to share the same body. And of course Kikyou loves Rin; it should be obvious since Sia turned over her body for Kikyou...
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Nvis
2005-10-28, 00:47
Does the Demon side of Sia also love Rin?

She is not Sia's demon side. Kikyou is Sia's sister and happens to share the same body. And of course Kikyou loves Rin; it should be obvious since Sia turned over her body for Kikyou...

Isn't Kikyou demon-blooded. I remember earlier in this thread that Kikyou was born demon or half-demon because their(& Sia's) mother is a demon + therefore she can't be princess of the God realm. <--I think.
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Marvin68
2005-10-29, 03:06
Q: are there any official Shuffle websites in english ofcourse , if not whats the best one(unofficial site) so far?
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sinistral
2005-10-29, 05:07
Isn't Kikyou demon-blooded. I remember earlier in this thread that Kikyou was born demon or half-demon because their(& Sia's) mother is a demon + therefore she can't be princess of the God realm. <--I think.

Kikyou is demon-blooded(her mother is the Demon God's sister). Lisianthus is god-blooded(either one of her God mother). They share the same body; The only difference is that Lisianthus is the dorminant soul of their bodies, she calls the shot as she controls the body, whereas Kikyou is the recessive soul, therefore unable to come out unless of certain situations. If you still didn't know, Sia has 3 mothers.

As said, Kikyou would appear of certain situations. She will definitely appear when Lisianthus felt inferior or something, or when Lisianthus actually wants Kikyou to appear and she herself 'disappears'/make herself become 'recessive'. In the anime, Kikyou appears because Lisianthus felt that she wronged Rin/made Rin sad. With no one to consult to, why not consult from/turn to your dearest sister? Who knows, your sister might actually give a great solution to your problem...
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Furudanuki
2005-10-30, 02:13
Q: Does anyone know if it is ever revealed in either the anime or the game which race - gods or demons - has the stronger innate magical abilities? We've seen some of what Nerine can do, and it was mentioned that Kareha-sempai has healing magic. But the main thing that has piqued my curiousity about this is:

Prior to the creation of Primula, both experimental subjects - Ama and Lycoris - were from the demon race. The object of the experiment was to create a being with more powerful magic than either race currently commands. So, are demons being used because they have more capacity for magic than the god race to begin with, or are they simply more expendable?

The spoiler info is probably common knowledge by now, but I'm using the tags just in case...
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Vexx
2005-10-31, 23:45
Q: Does anyone know if it is ever revealed in either the anime or the game which race - gods or demons - has the stronger innate magical abilities?

The spoiler info is probably common knowledge by now, but I'm using the tags just in case...

The demons certainly appear more *willing* to use magic (both combat and healing spells). The crackle around the form of God-chan in ep 15 leads me to believe that the gods are just more restrained about it.

ep 15 ... watched it several times now... excellent episode but I wish they'd had a bit of budget for the lab climax special effects (think Nanoha and Nanoha A sfx).
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dreamless
2005-11-01, 03:17
Kikyou is demon-blooded(her mother is the Demon God's sister). Lisianthus is god-blooded(either one of her God mother). They share the same body; The only difference is that Lisianthus is the dorminant soul of their bodies, she calls the shot as she controls the body, whereas Kikyou is the recessive soul, therefore unable to come out unless of certain situations. If you still didn't know, Sia has 3 mothers.

As said, Kikyou would appear of certain situations. She will definitely appear when Lisianthus felt inferior or something, or when Lisianthus actually wants Kikyou to appear and she herself 'disappears'/make herself become 'recessive'. In the anime, Kikyou appears because Lisianthus felt that she wronged Rin/made Rin sad. With no one to consult to, why not consult from/turn to your dearest sister? Who knows, your sister might actually give a great solution to your problem...
I think Sia and Kikyou have the same father and mother. Just Sia inherits god-bood more from their father, while Kikyou inherits demon-blood more from their mother.
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eMpTy265
2005-11-02, 21:19
I think Sia and Kikyou have the same father and mother. Just Sia inherits god-bood more from their father, while Kikyou inherits demon-blood more from their mother.

and then Kikyou wasn't allowed to be born,
(Since that would imply demon > god or something like that? Not the best news for Shin-chan)

so Kikyou got fused into Sia's recessive personality
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SANITY
2005-11-03, 02:04
and then Kikyou wasn't allowed to be born,
(Since that would imply demon > god or something like that? Not the best news for Shin-chan)

so Kikyou got fused into Sia's recessive personality

wouldnt this present a problem for the as a family, uncle forbesii would be a little angry wouldnt he, deliberatly killing his niece. why would shin-chan do this?
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Li Jianliang
2005-11-03, 02:15
wouldnt this present a problem for the as a family, uncle forbesii would be a little angry wouldnt he, deliberatly killing his niece. why would shin-chan do this?
At least in the game, no one but Sia seems to know about Kikyou. Perhaps Eustoma does know but either he assumes that Sia's twin died (in all aspects) before birth or haven't told anyone outside of the nuclear family about the incident yet.
...Which brings up a curiosity. Does the god realm have ultrasound machines?
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Vexx
2005-11-03, 02:33
There's really a bit of armwaving concerning this aspect of Sia and the royal family.... basically the "how" is a really weak plot point unless they clarify it in the anime better than the written material I've seen does.
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the_anime_one
2005-11-05, 10:11
Q: For what console is the game for?
pc, gc, ps2 etc....

is it in English?
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Tiamat
2005-11-05, 18:05
Q: For what console is the game for?
pc, gc, ps2 etc....

is it in English?

It's for the PC and it's only in Japanese.
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kira_lacusXX
2005-11-10, 08:17
i dont know if this is true but are all the girls named after flowers? i heard it somewhere and want to know. if they are can some one please tell me what flowers they are?
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sinistral
2005-11-10, 08:45
Froth Bite's wiki page (http://www.froth-bite.com/wiki/Projects/Shuffle) should helped you out in your search for flowers..

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PGilis
2005-11-10, 10:59
Also check my Post here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=42131) for some pictures and significance about the flowers.

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kira_lacusXX
2005-11-10, 15:42
k thanks guys.*cookies for both of yeh*

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*NightWish* …Nothing More Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Age: 44	Recovered Thread Content [3] Spoiler: defiant 2005-09-23, 16:00 After watching ep 10 I have a doubt Is Sia aware of Kyouko before meeting again with Rin, or after? I have the impression after seen ep 10 that she doesnt know about her other self. What do you think? __________________________________________________ Xellos-_^ 2005-09-23, 16:16 After watching ep 10 I have a doubt Is Sia aware of Kyouko before meeting again with Rin, or after? I have the impression after seen ep 10 that she doesnt know about her other self. What do you think? In the game she knows. __________________________________________________ pureebear 2005-09-23, 19:40 so ur telling me that kaedae doesnt end up with rin in the game, novels or manga, is it really true!!!! plz tell __________________________________________________ Riker 2005-09-23, 20:04 so ur telling me that kaedae doesnt end up with rin in the game, novels or manga, is it really true!!!! plz tell In the game you choose which girl you want to be with. There are multiple endings. For novels, there is one for each character. Not sure how they end though. I think the manga hasn't ended yet? __________________________________________________ Li Jianliang 2005-09-23, 23:50 Kyouko How did it turn into 'Kyouko'...?! It's Kikyou. Now, I've a few questions on the multiple endings regarding who Rin ends up with (as in marrying), since: If Rin chooses a girl other than Sia/Nerine, there's this scene where he supposedly appologizes to Shin/Maou. But instead of getting the a$$whooping he expected, the gods party, and then proceed to assume that Rin's going to rule all 3 worlds. (i.e. he'll take Sia, Nerine AND whoever he chose...) Now here's the question: How many people end up marrying Rin in each ending? Yeah, crazy three-wife allowance of the God & Demon Worlds... Rin doesn't end up marrying anyone... The game just ends with him having decided on one girl and the girl free of her past troubles in each ending. Lyrics for Tick! Tack! Opening Theme (short version). They're tentative and done by ear & such... Be Ambitious, Guys! Vocals: Hashimoto Miyuki Lyrics: AlAi Composition: Acchorike Arrangement: Suzuki Masaki Ichido-kiri no kichou na omoide dakara Afurete mo Koborete mo Baribari shiawase tsukanjaimashou Nanika o hoshigaru sono kirei na kimochi ga Kimi o sasaetsuzukeru gendouryoku Kizuiteru kai? Nandaka tonde mo nai bamen no naka de mo Sou ari no mama no kimi de ite yo Yakusoku da yo Dejitaru ja nakya konasenai Sonna toki mo maa aru kedo Insupireeshon da to ka fiiringu da to ka Nee Sou iu no ga ichiban daiji da yo ne Ichido-kiri no kichou na omoide dakara Koishite mo Yumemite mo Merihari tsukete ikou jan ka Daitan na kurai ga choudo ii yo Tabun Afurete mo Koborete mo Baribari shiawase tsukanjaimashou Be Ambitious, Guys! Because it's only once a precious memory So even if it'd overflow, even if it'd spill, let's actively grasp the happiness Your beautiful feelings want something- Have you noticed the motivating power that keeps supporting you? Even if you're somehow in an unexpected situation Please still be as you are- that's a promise 'If it's not digital then you can't handle it'; there are times like that But maybe an inspiration or feelings- hey, they are the most important Because it's only once a precious memory So even if you'd fall in love, even if you'd have dreams, shall we have musical pitches? Being as so daring is just right, probably Even if it'd overflow, even if it'd spill, let's actively grasp the happiness ...You know, we can really use a new and separate Tick! Tack! topic here. __________________________________________________ Decagon 2005-09-26, 13:39 As Nerine is the daughter of Forbesii and Sage, therefore something has to happen to her if history is changed, right? Well, she did, depending on how u change history, the normal Nerine will turn to either: http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4...knerine5bs.jpg Nerine(pink) and http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/3...inerine8ug.jpg Nerine(loli) That's so much for Tick! Tack! spoilers... and my first post in animesuki If Nerine became loli, what age would that make Primula? ... . . Hey, when Nerine changes, do her memories with Rin change? __________________________________________________ shaolinx 2005-09-26, 13:51 so in tick tack game, rin suppously ended up wit nerine and they went back into the past? then rin goes around pimpin and nerine charactertisic changes? that would mean her memories changes also, cuz the pink/loli nerine would never meet rin cuz they dont got 2 personilities like blue nerine. but that also means that they wouldve never went back in time, so rin could never change time... wow this is confusing __________________________________________________ Last_Hope 2005-09-26, 15:25 so in tick tack game, rin suppously ended up wit nerine and they went back into the past? then rin goes around pimpin and nerine charactertisic changes? that would mean her memories changes also, cuz the pink/loli nerine would never meet rin cuz they dont got 2 personilities like blue nerine. but that also means that they wouldve never went back in time, so rin could never change time... wow this is confusing Would it be to much trouble to ask you to explain that again? __________________________________________________ shaolinx 2005-09-26, 18:27 Would it be to much trouble to ask you to explain that again? iam confused as u are __________________________________________________ Nvis 2005-09-26, 20:58 What happened to Ama's husband/ Asa's father? He doesn't seem to be living with them( ie. Kaede's father). And just what is Ama hiding under her cap? __________________________________________________ evil-samurai 2005-09-26, 22:27 Dont people want to be suprized..??... ---So many questions... That Nerine loli looks alot younger than Primula, comparing those two picture in Decagon post, she looks around 8-9 years old dreamless@ Yes I know they are meant to be 18+ -- But they sure dont look it. __________________________________________________ dreamless 2005-09-27, 02:26 well, as kj1980 pointed out, the loli Nerine is supposed to be 18+ years old, just like Primula... and everyone else in Shuffle... __________________________________________________ PGilis 2005-09-27, 07:25 Well, even thought in Ero-BGames all the characters in sexual activity are aged 18 y.o. or older, and loli-Nerine is clearly under 18, that don't means she will have sex with Rin. In many light-themed bgames, do exist pure-love endings without sex with a girl, especially if she had something different than most characters. Probably in TICK TACK too, Rin will be forced to wait 5 or 6 years before he can do something nasty with loli-Nerine. __________________________________________________ Riker 2005-09-27, 07:34 Probably in TICK TACK too, Rin will be forced to wait 5 or 6 years before he can do something nasty with loli-Nerine. Erm, from what I have seen, Rin was impatient. >.> Edit : Added spoiler tags. >_< __________________________________________________ PGilis 2005-09-27, 07:50 ... Itsuki was right! Rin, you LOLIPEDO-FIN!! @Riker Enough spoilers without tags, please. I was planning to buy TICK TACK! __________________________________________________ dreamless 2005-09-27, 08:53 Well, even thought in Ero-BGames all the characters in sexual activity are aged 18 y.o. or older, and loli-Nerine is clearly under 18, that don't means she will have sex with Rin. well, loli-Nerine already had sex with Rin in the game... multiple times... __________________________________________________ evil-samurai 2005-09-27, 09:27 well, loli-Nerine already had sex with Rin in the game... multiple times... Mabye its just those two shots i was comparing that make loli-Nerine look so young, otherwise even more people are going to have a problem with this game (imo) __________________________________________________ Kyaa the Catlord 2005-09-27, 12:44 Question: does anyone else get a yuri vibe off Kareha? Oh my my! Its just her reaction to the waitresses and the uniforms that are making my alarms buzz. __________________________________________________ Riker 2005-09-27, 14:18 About Sia's and Nerine's dad, don't you think that the ruler of gods and the ruler of demons respectively have way too much free time? It's like they don't have much responsibilities as a ruler. Also, you don't see any servants at their house. In Tick Tack there's a maid(Sage) and a butler(Bark). I mean, they look like the average household rather than royalties. Oh, and is there a specific reason why they didn't bring their wives along with them? Just wondering if the game addresses any of my question. :x __________________________________________________ Cloudnine 2005-09-27, 19:16 Oh, and is there a specific reason why they didn't bring their wives along with them? The exact same reason why you never see Kaede's father~ It's all done for convenience ^^; Something you'll see very often in ero-game ports~ __________________________________________________ Decagon 2005-09-27, 20:08 Mabye its just those two shots i was comparing that make loli-Nerine look so young, otherwise even more people are going to have a problem with this game (imo)As someone who has only seen the cg, I can say that if I had a daughter that looked that young, I wouldn't let even let her date. Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure all her cg is um... well... NSFW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSFW) . __________________________________________________ eMpTy265 2005-09-27, 22:37 About Sia's and Nerine's dad, don't you think that the ruler of gods and the ruler of demons respectively have way too much free time? It's like they don't have much responsibilities as a ruler. Also, you don't see any servants at their house. In Tick Tack there's a maid(Sage) and a butler(Bark). I mean, they look like the average household rather than royalties. Oh, and is there a specific reason why they didn't bring their wives along with them? Just wondering if the game addresses any of my question. :x Well, maybe it's because the two worlds have been at peace for more than 18 years, and chances are they've had time to build their societies. Also, the fact that Rin's the next ruler of the shin/demon realm requires the existing rulers to keep an eye on him (maybe...) Add the convenient fact that Primula's living in Rin's house, and the fact that she's the ultimate magical vessel, said to hold the key to the future of both realms Basically the two rulers have every excuse to take a holiday in the human realm. * BTW, in the manga Sia's moms pay a visit in volume 3(?), and Kaede's dad also returns for a chapter. So they're around, just probably too busy to interfere with the lives of their children. so in tick tack game, rin suppously ended up wit nerine and they went back into the past? then rin goes around pimpin and nerine charactertisic changes? that would mean her memories changes also, cuz the pink/loli nerine would never meet rin cuz they dont got 2 personilities like blue nerine. but that also means that they wouldve never went back in time, so rin could never change time... wow this is confusing So basically you're concerned with the paradoxes that might have been created by Rin 'time travelling... Well... it depends on what philosophy the directors decide to adopt for the game. I'm not sure how Nerine changes in the game, but if Nerine actually travels with Rin, AND is affected by his decisions, I don't think the parallel world theory would work well. Since the player's choices are affecting the fate of Nerine, I suppose it could be something like this: 1.) Basically Rin's choice was already determined before things happened, and thus Rin's time travelling doesn't cause a paradox. (i.e. It was determined that Rin would have time travel, and perform whatever changes that he would have done. That being said, Nerine's change was also predetermined. [Whether it would be that Nerine => Pink Nerine, or not changing at all]) * Problems with the above theory: If it was predetermined that Nerine would change, then how/why did Rin first meet with Nerine? (i.e. If the player didn't pick a route that resulted in normal Nerine, then how did Rin meet Nerine & time travel back?) * Possible escapes: 1.) Blue Nerine is the true ending, and the other endings are merely possible worlds... (but then again possible worlds are as real as our world isn't it?) 2.) The Blue Nerine world was but an illusion created in order for the player to live out the real world. Once Rin made the decisions that altered Nerine, the illusional world disappeared, and everything became what it was at the end of the game. * (Reads my post... realizes that I've gone crazy again... ) __________________________________________________ Encoder 2005-09-28, 00:25 The game is magic, time does not exist in this game. 1 second of Sia's life equals 1 day of Rin's life <---------read this in a myth book once. __________________________________________________ Decagon 2005-09-28, 12:16 The game is magic, time does not exist in this game. 1 second of Sia's life equals 1 day of Rin's life <---------read this in a myth book once. Um, does that take into fact their first meeting when they were both kids? Plus, it's not like the shinzoku/mazoku are elves. They just have floppy ears and magic. __________________________________________________ Vexx** 2005-09-29, 02:50 After going through all this material,,,,, I'm kind of appalled they didn't sign up for a 52 episode run. There are some amazing plot threads to explore here... __________________________________________________ Decagon 2005-09-29, 02:59 After going through all this material,,,,, I'm kind of appalled they didn't sign up for a 52 episode run. There are some amazing plot threads to explore here...The thing is that people would probably lose interest if it were to run for a year. Point one: the broadcaster is one of those channels you pay for, and it would potentially make it harder to make Rin decide on one girl if they spent enough time to pursue every girl's path to a fuller extent--plus, by the time they got to the last character, the viewer would probably forget everything about the first few girls. Remember 52 eps generally = 1 year. __________________________________________________ shaolinx 2005-09-30, 00:55 omg, i think tick tack would be considered illegal in the states and many other countries b/c of the content. (ie. loli nerine + rin) anywho, 52 eps would make it too boring. Ichigo 100% lost all its greatness after 10 vols of the manga. but a ova / sequal would be nice __________________________________________________ Decagon 2005-09-30, 03:28 omg, i think tick tack would be considered illegal in the states and many other countries b/c of the content. (ie. loli nerine + rin)Since we haven't been explicitly told how old Nerine is, we wouldn't "know" () how old loli-Nerine is, regardless of what age bracket she obviously falls into. Remember with these things it's only illegal if you think it's illegal. And the only way you would think it's illegal is if you have a really dirty mind . Or a really sensible one, __________________________________________________ Wrath88 2005-09-30, 06:05 anywho, 52 eps would make it too boring. Ichigo 100% lost all its greatness after 10 vols of the manga. but a ova / sequal would be nice Too long would mean a lot of ideas are required, not to mention that after a while people start to lose interest. Naruto is over 100 eps long, but thats with the introduction of more than 30 characters. Shuffle! only has 5 girls, one guy, and about 3 other side characters that are of any interest. So of course, they have to keep it short for this anime. That's not to say ovas and sequels aren't bad. In fact, having them is a very good idea . __________________________________________________ Vexx 2005-09-30, 17:40 The thing is that people would probably lose interest if it were to run for a year. Point one: the broadcaster is one of those channels you pay for, and it would potentially make it harder to make Rin decide on one girl if they spent enough time to pursue every girl's path to a fuller extent--plus, by the time they got to the last character, the viewer would probably forget everything about the first few girls. Remember 52 eps generally = 1 year. You're probably right .. or at least you're voicing what the producers/broadcasters think. I think they usually underestimate their audience (in the US, there are more fundamental reasons why the television audience is shirinking like a punctured balloon - make shows for the stupid and only the stupid watch). Since Shuffle! is R-15+ I would hope the target audience is capable of holding a few ideas in their head for an extended duration But... given the way many of these series are structured (i.e. running the relationship threads in sequential rather than in parallel form), it would be a bit difficult to recall details from 15 or 20 episodes ago. It would be nice to see Shuffle! storyboarded in parallel arcs rather than sequential arcs. More realistic and more of a race... though I think they're going to miss an opportunity here for a groundbreaking solution not available in the game. Ah well... I've been told the commercial purpose of the anime is to get you to buy the manga and all the merchandise (shocking, eh? ). So my Eeyore-sense says the series will end with no real change of status. Rin will have a pack of girls orbiting him and we'll see a few OVAs profiling his relationship with a selected young lady and maybe a resolution. We can hope for something more challenging and completed in the manga. Ichigo (much as I liked the character design and a lot of the bits) was broken from the start because of just flat poor storyboarding in the anime and the manga suffered from "soap opera never-enditis" and was wrapped up very abruptly. __________________________________________________ ToshioRyu 2005-10-04, 02:47 umm i was wondering how come AnimeUniverse skipped eps 10 and released eps 11 instead? will they be doing eps 10? __________________________________________________ Vexx 2005-10-04, 02:53 umm i was wondering how come AnimeUniverse skipped eps 10 and released eps 11 instead? will they be doing eps 10? Discussed in the episode threads 10 and 11 -- in a nutshell: the team working ep 11 got done first while ep 10 got hung up on some subtleties of translation. They went ahead and released 11 "for the good of the community" since many people had seen 10 from the other groups. They are still working on 10 and have said they'll release it as soon as it is ready. I rather like their freewheeling translation --- it includes dialog that fits right in with how it might be said with Western slang and metaphor. Froth and Kaz are doing more 'straight" translations -- more helpful if you're trying to actually listen to the language and learn a bit of it. __________________________________________________ ToshioRyu 2005-10-05, 20:27 Thanks for that i didn't know what was going on... there site wasn't even working when i tried to find out. __________________________________________________ Koryu 2005-10-08, 19:57 hey guys, im currently looking for episode 10 and episode 11 torrents for shuffle!. it seems that froth bite doesn't have it and when i try downloading the one who has them, they seem to be not working. so...can someone help me look for one? edit: nvm, found the torrents. __________________________________________________ Vexx 2005-10-09, 02:18 animeU just released their version of ep 10 .... froth-bite's version is still in the pipeline. For ep 11, currently only animeU is out ... __________________________________________________ kenshinflyer 2005-10-10, 00:41 This is my first entry here at the AnimeSuki forums, and it's because of one thing: SHUFFLE! Too bad there's Trinity Blood to lull me to sleep, making me miss the midnight SHUFFLE airing on WOWOW...that's why I come to AnimeSuki to get the lowdown... Speaking of which (I hope it doesn't violate anything), I'm not asking for an exadt date, but is a group now fansubbing the latest SHUFFLE episode? Just asking. Hm, as for the show itself, I say I pity poor Kaede-chan--here's Tsuchimi Rin, living in her house (because I think she's his landlady), and also his personal alarm clock, but she can't manage to tell her exact feelings... But if that won't happen, I'd go for Lisianthus! __________________________________________________ kenshinflyer 2005-10-10, 00:42 This is my first entry here at the AnimeSuki forums, and it's because of one thing: SHUFFLE! Too bad there's Trinity Blood to lull me to sleep, making me miss the midnight SHUFFLE airing on WOWOW...that's why I come to AnimeSuki to get the lowdown... Speaking of which (I hope it doesn't violate anything), I'm not asking for an exact date, but is a group now fansubbing the latest SHUFFLE episode? Just asking. Hm, as for the show itself, I say I pity poor Kaede-chan--here's Tsuchimi Rin, living in her house (because I think she's his landlady), and also his personal alarm clock, but she can't manage to tell her exact feelings... But if that won't happen, I'd go for Lisianthus! __________________________________________________ Cloudnine 2005-10-10, 01:42 ^^^ Yes, there are 3 main groups subbing Shuffle! at the latest episodes~ Froth-Bite KazenokoeFansubs (KnKF) AnimeU http://animesuki.sandwich.net/series.php/623.html __________________________________________________ Vexx 2005-10-10, 09:26 AnimeU tends to get their sub out first, but each of the 3 groups listed by Cloudnine have advantages to their styles of translation, subtitling, and OP/ED handling. I've been recommending people look at a sample of each before deciding which group to follow. Myself, I lean towards Froth-bite because of their work on Mahoraba and their files seem to be "brighter/sharper" on my computer, but occasionally I'm finding I like AnimeU's translation style (looser but getting the spirit of the conversation nicely) and sometimes KnKF seems to have a less stilted translation. I also like the fatter fonts and those with colors signifying the speaker. __________________________________________________ Monchan 2005-10-10, 21:35 How much does the Shuffle! Game cost? __________________________________________________ kenshinflyer 2005-10-10, 23:41 AnimeU tends to get their sub out first, but each of the 3 groups listed by Cloudnine have advantages to their styles of translation, subtitling, and OP/ED handling. I've been recommending people look at a sample of each before deciding which group to follow. Myself, I lean towards Froth-bite because of their work on Mahoraba and their files seem to be "brighter/sharper" on my computer, but occasionally I'm finding I like AnimeU's translation style (looser but getting the spirit of the conversation nicely) and sometimes KnKF seems to have a less stilted translation. I also like the fatter fonts and those with colors signifying the speaker. Yes, I agree with that. I've tried fansubs from KazeNoKoe and AnimeU, they did the subbing well. I just obtained a fansub from Froth-Bite, and I'll check it out later. And, oh, I'm currently d/loading Shuffle ep 12. I slept during the WOWOW airing...and I can't wait to see it...especially the thing about the mysterious Primula. __________________________________________________ Cloudnine 2005-10-11, 00:00 How much does the Shuffle! Game cost? It's around $80 bucks on Himeya. You can get it off of amazon.jp for ￥7800 at amazon.jp Or~ you can try to find it elsewhere... but then Sia will cry at the fact that you didn't buy the game ;_; __________________________________________________ Monchan 2005-10-11, 00:17 $80 Bucks!? FOr this game? Wow, I thought that this game would sell at a regular $50. Also, it isn't that knew, so I though ti ti would be like atleast $40 by now!!! __________________________________________________ Vexx 2005-10-11, 02:52 You are confused by the pricing... "$50" is only a typical price for a game released in the USA. The typical price for games in Japan is $80 (or about 7800 yen depending on the currency exchange). You are also assuming the sort of price discount that happens in the States. This is a foreign (i.e. Japanese) game ... um, it also means that the game itself is in Japanese (no subtitles) and requires your computer's operating systems to be set to the Japan Region locale and possibly some fonts installed. The $80 dollars is kind of pricey by our standards, particularly when you consider these sort of games are really just fancy Zork/Adventure type text games with pretty pictures, music, and voice acting. It would be interesting to see what a game like HalfLife sells for in Japan. __________________________________________________ dreamless 2005-10-11, 03:03 And usually they are without voice acting and not nearly the interactivity of Zork/Adventure type games... the "gameplay" just consists of occassionally selecting text menus... they are "visual novels" with next to nil gameplay and only story and pictures... __________________________________________________ Rawr 2005-10-11, 03:41 Since I can't see text in the games, I wish Rin had a voice so I could keep up better with whats going on :/ __________________________________________________ kira_lacusXX 2005-10-17, 22:30 i was reading the episode 13 discussion thread and someone mentioned asa is an experiment [or something] and the faint at the beach had something to do with it...i asked for an explanation [because asa is too cool] but none answered until someone told me to try this thread...sooo anyone know and want to explain to me? __________________________________________________ Xellos-_^ 2005-10-17, 22:37 i was reading the episode 13 discussion thread and someone mentioned asa is an experiment [or something] and the faint at the beach had something to do with it...i asked for an explanation [because asa is too cool] but none answered until someone told me to try this thread...sooo anyone know and want to explain to me? Try looking for my post on page 3. __________________________________________________ BrokenWingz 2005-10-22, 20:44 No idea, they haven't given any indication of who he is in the anime yet, and I don't know about his appearance in the game, but I don't think he exists there. Maybe he's a mastermind behind all the attacks on Rin. Just realized, this is for episode 14, this should be in the Q&A section. Well~~~another thinking bout it for a while, i remembered that he was in Ep 1, during when Rin/Kaede was walking to school which was before the RRR/SSS was formed, thus coming to a conclusion of him being either KKK or Rin fanboy jk jk __________________________________________________ Nightwisher 2005-10-24, 13:11 i do by the way wonder if the makers of the game (and therefore anime more or less knowing) added Sia's Chair as a cheer for Munchkin Fu's 'Folding Chair of Retribution' __________________________________________________ Vexx 2005-10-24, 13:44 Dunno... but her "Magic Chair of Smiting" reminds me of some of the weapons in World of Warcraft (appear on demand). And don't forget, apparently she can summon a "Wrench of Despair" if she's really pissed (according to a statement she made -- something along the lines of "Don't make me summon the Wrench!" ) __________________________________________________ ZGMF-X10A 2005-10-24, 22:53 I was wondering "Does the ribbon every girl is wearing something important or significant?"... or is it just a fasion trend... O.o __________________________________________________ Vexx 2005-10-26, 03:15 I was wondering "Does the ribbon every girl is wearing something important or significant?"... or is it just a fasion trend... O.o I'm going to take a wild leap here, based on the Asa & Rin conversation in ep 14, and bet the ribbons are an allusion to the bonds people create with each other. In Japanese culture, the bonds between people seem to be more important than whether they were good or bad -- the memories that make those bonds are really the only things that transcend the impermanence of all things. So think of them as fancy memory "reminders" if naught else. Every ribbon worn seems to be a memory of something for the wearer (so far.. we haven't gotten many of the backstories yet). __________________________________________________ Princess_of_Hell 2005-10-27, 13:00 What is inner Sia's name anyways? I know it can't be Sia. __________________________________________________ Riker 2005-10-27, 13:07 What is inner Sia's name anyways? I know it can't be Sia. She doesn't actually have a name yet at this point of time in the anime. She is given the name, Kikyou, by Rin near the end of her path in the game. __________________________________________________ Monchan 2005-10-27, 21:47 Does the Demon side of Sia also love Rin? __________________________________________________ Li Jianliang 2005-10-27, 23:17 Does the Demon side of Sia also love Rin? She is not Sia's demon side. Kikyou is Sia's sister and happens to share the same body. And of course Kikyou loves Rin; it should be obvious since Sia turned over her body for Kikyou... __________________________________________________ Nvis 2005-10-28, 00:47 Does the Demon side of Sia also love Rin? She is not Sia's demon side. Kikyou is Sia's sister and happens to share the same body. And of course Kikyou loves Rin; it should be obvious since Sia turned over her body for Kikyou... Isn't Kikyou demon-blooded. I remember earlier in this thread that Kikyou was born demon or half-demon because their(& Sia's) mother is a demon + therefore she can't be princess of the God realm. <--I think. __________________________________________________ Marvin68 2005-10-29, 03:06 Q: are there any official Shuffle websites in english ofcourse , if not whats the best one(unofficial site) so far? __________________________________________________ sinistral 2005-10-29, 05:07 Isn't Kikyou demon-blooded. I remember earlier in this thread that Kikyou was born demon or half-demon because their(& Sia's) mother is a demon + therefore she can't be princess of the God realm. <--I think. Kikyou is demon-blooded(her mother is the Demon God's sister). Lisianthus is god-blooded(either one of her God mother). They share the same body; The only difference is that Lisianthus is the dorminant soul of their bodies, she calls the shot as she controls the body, whereas Kikyou is the recessive soul, therefore unable to come out unless of certain situations. If you still didn't know, Sia has 3 mothers. As said, Kikyou would appear of certain situations. She will definitely appear when Lisianthus felt inferior or something, or when Lisianthus actually wants Kikyou to appear and she herself 'disappears'/make herself become 'recessive'. In the anime, Kikyou appears because Lisianthus felt that she wronged Rin/made Rin sad. With no one to consult to, why not consult from/turn to your dearest sister? Who knows, your sister might actually give a great solution to your problem... __________________________________________________ Furudanuki 2005-10-30, 02:13 Q: Does anyone know if it is ever revealed in either the anime or the game which race - gods or demons - has the stronger innate magical abilities? We've seen some of what Nerine can do, and it was mentioned that Kareha-sempai has healing magic. But the main thing that has piqued my curiousity about this is: Prior to the creation of Primula, both experimental subjects - Ama and Lycoris - were from the demon race. The object of the experiment was to create a being with more powerful magic than either race currently commands. So, are demons being used because they have more capacity for magic than the god race to begin with, or are they simply more expendable? The spoiler info is probably common knowledge by now, but I'm using the tags just in case... __________________________________________________ Vexx 2005-10-31, 23:45 Q: Does anyone know if it is ever revealed in either the anime or the game which race - gods or demons - has the stronger innate magical abilities? The spoiler info is probably common knowledge by now, but I'm using the tags just in case... The demons certainly appear more willing to use magic (both combat and healing spells). The crackle around the form of God-chan in ep 15 leads me to believe that the gods are just more restrained about it. ep 15 ... watched it several times now... excellent episode but I wish they'd had a bit of budget for the lab climax special effects (think Nanoha and Nanoha A sfx). __________________________________________________ dreamless 2005-11-01, 03:17 Kikyou is demon-blooded(her mother is the Demon God's sister). Lisianthus is god-blooded(either one of her God mother). They share the same body; The only difference is that Lisianthus is the dorminant soul of their bodies, she calls the shot as she controls the body, whereas Kikyou is the recessive soul, therefore unable to come out unless of certain situations. If you still didn't know, Sia has 3 mothers. As said, Kikyou would appear of certain situations. She will definitely appear when Lisianthus felt inferior or something, or when Lisianthus actually wants Kikyou to appear and she herself 'disappears'/make herself become 'recessive'. In the anime, Kikyou appears because Lisianthus felt that she wronged Rin/made Rin sad. With no one to consult to, why not consult from/turn to your dearest sister? Who knows, your sister might actually give a great solution to your problem... I think Sia and Kikyou have the same father and mother. Just Sia inherits god-bood more from their father, while Kikyou inherits demon-blood more from their mother. __________________________________________________ eMpTy265 2005-11-02, 21:19 I think Sia and Kikyou have the same father and mother. Just Sia inherits god-bood more from their father, while Kikyou inherits demon-blood more from their mother. and then Kikyou wasn't allowed to be born, (Since that would imply demon > god or something like that? Not the best news for Shin-chan) so Kikyou got fused into Sia's recessive personality __________________________________________________ SANITY 2005-11-03, 02:04 and then Kikyou wasn't allowed to be born, (Since that would imply demon > god or something like that? Not the best news for Shin-chan) so Kikyou got fused into Sia's recessive personality wouldnt this present a problem for the as a family, uncle forbesii would be a little angry wouldnt he, deliberatly killing his niece. why would shin-chan do this? __________________________________________________ Li Jianliang 2005-11-03, 02:15 wouldnt this present a problem for the as a family, uncle forbesii would be a little angry wouldnt he, deliberatly killing his niece. why would shin-chan do this? At least in the game, no one but Sia seems to know about Kikyou. Perhaps Eustoma does know but either he assumes that Sia's twin died (in all aspects) before birth or haven't told anyone outside of the nuclear family about the incident yet. ...Which brings up a curiosity. Does the god realm have ultrasound machines? __________________________________________________ Vexx 2005-11-03, 02:33 There's really a bit of armwaving concerning this aspect of Sia and the royal family.... basically the "how" is a really weak plot point unless they clarify it in the anime better than the written material I've seen does. __________________________________________________ the_anime_one 2005-11-05, 10:11 Q: For what console is the game for? pc, gc, ps2 etc.... is it in English? __________________________________________________ Tiamat 2005-11-05, 18:05 Q: For what console is the game for? pc, gc, ps2 etc.... is it in English? It's for the PC and it's only in Japanese. __________________________________________________ kira_lacusXX 2005-11-10, 08:17 i dont know if this is true but are all the girls named after flowers? i heard it somewhere and want to know. if they are can some one please tell me what flowers they are? __________________________________________________ sinistral 2005-11-10, 08:45 Froth Bite's wiki page (http://www.froth-bite.com/wiki/Projects/Shuffle) should helped you out in your search for flowers.. __________________________________________________ PGilis 2005-11-10, 10:59 Also check my Post here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=42131) for some pictures and significance about the flowers. __________________________________________________ kira_lacusXX 2005-11-10, 15:42 k thanks guys.cookies for both of yeh Last edited by NightWish; 2005-12-19 at 07:54.