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Originally Posted by Undertaker
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While I agree with your view on underage thing and applauded you for being one of the EXTREME RARE exception, but really, what can parents do? What can you do? you can forbid the behavior all you want, they'll just be more willing to break them and try harder to hide it from you. If you find cigarettes or alcohol in your kids' room what can you do? They already proved to you they can find a way to get those stuff? Ground them? You can ground them until they're 18, hell even move with them to college but what 'll happen? I guarantee you they'll get more messed up instead. Then what? you'll drag your kids to the police and have them arrest on juvi-charges?
Besides, its not illegal to sell R-18 porn stuff to minor in Japan. (or in US for that matter, depend on states) R-18 is like ESRB and movie rating that are self-regulated system, most large stores won't do it, and all store put up signs to pass inspections, but it's not illegal.
The way this anime is portrait, it is very close of real-live scenario. You can be more uptight, and you family being more strict, but that's not how majority of the world is.
but you musty have seen or heard the statistic some time during your school life to know that majority are breaking them.
I learned it the hard way because of not drinking during high school and that cost me quite a few social opportunities to hang out with my friend or going out with girls.
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Can't really do much, I guess. But that doesn't mean you should just let it happen. I mean, there are polices and laws out there, but regardless of that, people commit crimes, right? So then, the police should just give up?
At least try to limit it, instead of allowing it.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Like I said before, I don't really find your "majority" thing so believable, so I can't really agree with you.
In the first place, this is how I feel about the situation, and I'm not willing to bend it to match the "majority" of the world.
Kind of reminds me of my sister some times. Always going "Well, these families do this..." or whatever. Like it matters what other families do...
Nope.
Hey, if that was me, I wouldn't regret squat. If it has dangerous risks to spend time with friends or do whatever, I definitely wouldn't do it.
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You're so right and yet so wrong at the same time  ... with the pacing we've got, there's a high chance that one of the total KEY scenes of the show will happen at the end of ep4, and it will define Ayase's role in the story very well.
Really? Because of the way Kyousuke has been sticking up for Kirino, he lost your sympathy?
The way I see it (based on _my_ European cultural background) Kirino's dad was generally right, but only to a degree.
This is very much open to interpretation.
Playing eroges and taking drugs are hardly comparable, your analogy feels a bit strained here.
Shouldn't this give her some leeway and her parents a basis for tolerance and trust?
Naturally, openly sanctioning watching porn merely for the stimulation of the sex drive is wrong either. But just like the mother knows (and tolerates) Kyousuke's stash of porn, I don't see looking the other way with eroge's as a criminal offense. As long as Kirino does okay, just like she always has. |
Hmm? The girl had a name?
...Ah... Come to think of it, in the first episode...?
Well, I felt Kyousuke's argument was wrong and fully sided with his dad's argument. And considering he hasn't impressed me at all through the episodes so far, I didn't really care about him that much in the first place.
I guess it is.
Maybe not the same thing, but I was just using it to point out that Kyousuke's statement was flawed. That is should be allowed because she is passionate about it and makes friends from it.
True, drugs aren't the same and are on a different scale, but it is a easy example to use to show why it shouldn't be allowed just because of that.
And yeah, she is all of that, so I believe there is nothing wrong with having anime and stuff.
But having R-18 stuff? Even if it is not a crime, not allowed/tolerated, for me. Like you said, "openly sanctioning watching porn merely for the stimulation of the sex drive is wrong."