[Tak]

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

According to Misa in the final episode, he sacrificed himself to save her. So since he never made a show again at the end of the series, everyone immediately assumed he'd died and that Misa took over commanding SDF-2 when it was built.

That was the Robotech ending.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

The Zentradi only wiped out Earth after SDF-1 left there, and it was meant to be a lesson to the humans. But there were survivors and they reached an agreement, but it wasn't exactly peace until years later. Up until that point, the Zentradi made the same actions as the Vajra, except they didn't start and get stopped, they carried it out till the end.

Oh ok, so why don't you tell me what humanity, stripped of its military and much of its resources, should do against a race that outnumbers you by a huge margin? And one with roflstompyouharhar fleet hovering above your head?

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

Remember that male and females of the Zentradi did not coincide with each other nor agree with one another, which left them shocked when they saw female and male "microns" together. That was from both series AND DYRL.

But that was not a battle, just segregation, and it was necessary in order to maintain their military capacity.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

Yet, in the last few episodes, he went completely against his forces and SDF to blow himself up, which destroyed Captain Global.

Uh, there were no forces to back him up anymore. The Zentradi fleet above Earth orbit had aligned itself with UN SPACY and no longer hostile to Earth. Quamzin, who did not wish to align with the UN SPACY or shot by his superior simply chose the third way out, that is, to go into hiding. Not surprisingly, his stubborn personality ensured both sides to take him as a rogue. With little option left for him, Quamzin gathered all who could not adapt to life on Earth in a last ditch effort to preserve what they believed as the pride of Zentradi. That is, to fight & die in battle.

But Global lived, and initiated a sequence of events that would give us further Macross series.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

And yet, both male and female Zentradi had common ground, yet they hated how each one of them tried to control the other. But when you look at the full picture, didn't the Zentradi have a main commander too? So the only difference is that they're getting bossed around by a stronger male Zentradi. That's sexism.

Never happened in the main series, my dear.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

Yet, once again, they fell right into the Zentradi's traps. Mars was one of those examples. They didn't bother to scan the planet's surface UNTIL they were already in the trap. There's an example right there. If they wanted to protect themselves properly, explore all outcomes before taking such a large risk like that.

ROFL.

For your information, they did scan the planet, and found nothing. However, whether they did or did not scan is almost irrelevant. The SDF was never in a militarily advantageous position. Ever. Have you any idea how disgustingly easy it was for a mere fraction of the main Zentradi fleet to wipe out humanity? If not for the fact that the Zentradi wanted something, and were basically dicking around for 27 episode of the show, there was no way in hell for humanity to survive as long as it did.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

Hey, you're the one who said Frontier shouldn't be peaceful with the Vajra after all they'd done. Well, the Zentradi did so much worse before THEY created peace with Earth.

You are confused again. In the romance thread, we were discussing the mindset of the denizens of Frontier, and their collective anger toward the Vajra, not because I believe wiping them out that was a viable option, because it wasn't. Humanity made that mistake in the first Space War, it was smart for them not to repeat that same mistake in the Vajra war. These critters possibly outnumber even the Zentradi by a huge margin, and individually more powerful, I don't think wiping them out can be achieved.

Moreover, if you look from a different point of view, both the Vajra and Zentradi left humanity with very little choice but peace.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

Once again, who ELSE in Macross F actually desired to do what she did? No one. Not even Alto or Sheryl. Nor Ozma or Catherine. Not even Captain Wilder. She was left on her own. Only Brera saw her intents and decided to agree with her.

And her way of conducting it was bad. Do you get it? You can repeat this in a variety of ways, but my answer will always be the same: Her intends were good, her way of achieving it was bad.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

Small brains, built for war. Need an example, even Alto spoke it out for you: "is that a... weapon?"

Right, because Alto was a Vajra expert.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

Not entirely. They were still built for war.

Right, just because he said so.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

Ranka once again explained all of the Vajra's original intentions in the last episode.

And what did you think that was?

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

I just don't want to get yelled at by senior members. So regardless, we had already slipped into this discussion when a single person started talking about SDF. And that wasn't me.

Bullshit. You posted this:

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

Well, the original SDF also lacked a good storyline.

If you start a fight, then assume the responsibility.

- Tak