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Originally Posted by Kamui4356
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I was referring mostly to the relation between Stalin and Mao Zedong. Many communist ideals suggested by Mao were based on Stalin's model of the USSR. Evn this conflict wasn't that great compared to worldwide conflicts. Those were nothing more than a series of small scale battles which didn't last for a year. It happens, but not more often than democratic-led conflicts. The point I'm making is that democracy as it exists in reality isn't so much different except for the fact it is more subtle and deceptive.
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Originally Posted by Kamui4356
I'm also going to call bullshit on that whole WWII was caused by appeasing Hitler thing. Neither Britain nor France was prepared for war at the time. During the time they were appeasing Hitler, Britain was making preperations for a major military expansion, and France was doing likewise. Plus there was still the hope of avoiding a repeat of WWI, which was still fresh in the memories of many people even two decades later. Sure you can say that Germany was less prepared for war than Britain and France at the time, but even so there was nothing they could do for Austria, and little they could do for Czechoslovakia. In fact when they tried to help Poland, that didn't go very well. Even if they did declare war sooner, we'd still get a WWII, just a few years early. Plus declaring war there kind of goes against your whole WWII was caused by appeasing Hitler since it still results in war.
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Of course the allies could not stop Germany from taking Poland, Austria or Czecoslovakia. In all those cases, they would have had to cross German broders, which would've inevitably caused severe damage to their military forces. And in the case of Poland, allied interference would've incited Stalin to retaliate as well, and nobody wanted to get on his bad side at the time. If allied forces tried to do something about them, they'd have been surrounded by Germany and the USSR. It was a no win situation then. However, Hitler still did not have sufficient forces to tackle the allies when he took the Rhineland, when the UK and France could've easily stopped Hitler. That was appeasement as it was breaching the Varsailles treaty. Yet France did nothing to stop this and they were to later pay the price for this.
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Originally Posted by Kamui4356
As for the whole 9-11 thing you do have a point when it comes to Iraq, but Afgahnistan? No matter how you look at it, our reasons for going in were justified. Sure the war was horribly mismanaged, but still the intial reason was fairly solid as wars go.
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How was it justified? What did Osama have there that was so dangerous? Weapons of mass destruction? The only thing there is over there that's of any real value is oil. That's what the Soviets wanted in the old days, and what Bush wanted during his presidency. There was nothing else there that posed a threat to the Bush administration.