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Sylf · 2005-12-25, 23:30

Simplicity?

I actually fail to see what makes XviD/AVI is simpler than h.264/MKV or, even h.264/MP4. AVI requires AVI splitter, and XviD requires XviD decoder. Of course, same goes with audio decoder - it just happens that MP3 directshow decoders are included in more modern versions of Windows and/or Windows Media Player.

h.264/<whatever container> is absolutely no different. You need a splitter, a video decoder, and an audio decoder. Most of the time, the AVI decoder gets downloaded upon the first time WMP tries to play such file. Otherwise, windows actually lacks AVI splitter by default. We've seen such case before - it happened within a past year, which the thread was lost, but we've seen it. In such case, solving the problem is absolutely no different than supporting people to enable MKV playback.

The only thing that MKV/MP4 camp is losing out is the history - they are both new kids on the block. Many people are still only learning to play with them. But it won't be for long. AVI is a dying container. Even Microsoft has ditched it and moved on to ASF container.

Before this thread was destroyed once, a few people reminded us of those chaos days when the fansub groups started switching from DivX3 to XviD. Some people cried against XviD back then, complaining that the technology was too young. That cry didn't last too long - before too long, we couldn't find a group that still used the old technology. Now is the time for XviD to be left behind as old technology and the community seeks out the new technologies.

And the knowledgebase will quickly be expanded, and people will not feel any pain playing MKV/MP4/AAC/Vorbis/AVC contents. Afterall, it's not hard at all.

2005-12-25, 23:30	Link #61
Sylf 翻訳家わなびぃ Fansubber Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 50	Simplicity? I actually fail to see what makes XviD/AVI is simpler than h.264/MKV or, even h.264/MP4. AVI requires AVI splitter, and XviD requires XviD decoder. Of course, same goes with audio decoder - it just happens that MP3 directshow decoders are included in more modern versions of Windows and/or Windows Media Player. h.264/<whatever container> is absolutely no different. You need a splitter, a video decoder, and an audio decoder. Most of the time, the AVI decoder gets downloaded upon the first time WMP tries to play such file. Otherwise, windows actually lacks AVI splitter by default. We've seen such case before - it happened within a past year, which the thread was lost, but we've seen it. In such case, solving the problem is absolutely no different than supporting people to enable MKV playback. The only thing that MKV/MP4 camp is losing out is the history - they are both new kids on the block. Many people are still only learning to play with them. But it won't be for long. AVI is a dying container. Even Microsoft has ditched it and moved on to ASF container. Before this thread was destroyed once, a few people reminded us of those chaos days when the fansub groups started switching from DivX3 to XviD. Some people cried against XviD back then, complaining that the technology was too young. That cry didn't last too long - before too long, we couldn't find a group that still used the old technology. Now is the time for XviD to be left behind as old technology and the community seeks out the new technologies. And the knowledgebase will quickly be expanded, and people will not feel any pain playing MKV/MP4/AAC/Vorbis/AVC contents. Afterall, it's not hard at all.