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Originally Posted by Klashikari

You know, after reading Haruka's route once again to refresh my memory, some things are still quite... puzzling to say the least:

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-There are 2 bad ends. The second one is quite logical: Obviously, at some point, Haruka's obsession over finding who is the "good child" will drive her insane after coming this far due to Riki being there but... what about the first bad ending flag?
This one is triggered when Riki found out Haruka is in the same class than Kanata (and I still don't see the big deal of this), and if Haruka learns that, you got a very quick bad ending as result, without much indication of the aftermath.

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It's not properly explained and I myself don't see it as a good excuse for a bad ending. But if I were to take a guess it's basically related to the fact that by finding out about her class and how she is treated there, she believed Riki and the others would start treating her differently so she nips it in the bud before it happens.
Again, not sure as this is the only explanation I could come up with.

Originally Posted by Klashikari

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-I don't doubt Kanata's intentions, but I still have a lot of hard time to figure her actual train of thought.
She certainly stated that she is chasing Haruka out of the school, so that she won't "break". The problem is that such objective was obviously present even before Riki is in relationship with Haruka, and things went south "because" of Riki.
Now my problem is: what actually makes Haruka break then? I mean sure she is certainly under so much pressure due to her childhood with the Saigusa and Futaki than she had to let out some steam and sabotage Kanata on daily basis but that's far it goes.
Instead, it would rather be necessary for her to either 1) have a new place to find (granted by Riki in her route) 2) or have the family members apologizing (unlikely, but the real solution still).
So Kanata's position is a bit... difficult to grasp: she obviously care a lot for Haruka and still has her own shit to deal with (even moreso in her own route), but her facade doesn't exactly contribute directly to Haruka's welfare. I always thought Kanata was under the Saigusa's family observation hence why she has to keep a hardass stance, but it is revealed it is rather something she did even reluctantly for Haruka's sake, which still puzzle me a lot

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While I to don't know exactly how Haruka would brake...I attribute Kanata's "unnecessary" behavior to a simple mistake on her part. Perhaps in her own way she believed it would have the opposite effect of ultimately being helpful to Haruka rather than making things worse. She still human, she still makes mistakes and to me, this would actually make the character even better and more human, adding flaws to her character that honestly...any person could have.

Originally Posted by Klashikari

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-I know it doesn't matter much in the end, but who was the culprit behind the graffiti and flyers? Kyousuke's doing?

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I always thought it was Kanata that did it as she reached a breaking point or perhaps one of the student council people with a grudge...but the Kyousuke theory isn't bad considering it wouldn't be the first and only time he helped out during a route.

Originally Posted by Klashikari

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and finally, due to Refrain

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-To what extent can we believe the facts of this arc in reality?
The problem I have with Haruka's route is that... well it obviously had to occur beforehand in order to be recreated in the dream world. However, I still don't think it is really what happened. I mean it is implied Kanata was also in the bus, so unless the bus had several class (huh?) so it wouldn't make sense for Haruka to barge in Riki's classroom on daily basis if she had to confront Kanata as well.

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We've talked about this before...but my theory is that the Dream World has the ability to copy the real world, even things that are beyond the knowledge of those that created it. Thus Kanata would be a mere copy of her real world self (who was not on the buss) but still retain the knowledge and personality of her real self.