[Estavali]

Originally Posted by blackwhite67

I read the spoilers about the protagonist and I'm a little confused. He an enchanter, which has few attack skills and specializes on buffing others, but isn't he supposed to be a loner? His class completely contradicts his personality. How the hell did he get to level 90 like that anyway?

Spoiler for A bit on our bespectacled protagonist:

Oops! If it's me that has led to this confusion, then I sincerely apologise.

For one thing, Shiroe has been playing Elder Tales for eight years, counting up to the day the world of Thaldesia suddenly changed from fiction to reality. Even for a casual player, eight years are enough to let a person level at least one character to a pretty high level. I'm a relatively causal MMO player too (and my current main isn't quite the damage-dealer... yet) and I managed to reach level 100 within a year.

But then again the game I play doesn't have death exp penalties and is relatively relaxed in terms of pre-100 levelling, so maybe it's not really a good comparison

In any case, we have folks like Shiroe here, who enjoys delving into the contents of a game, which in this case is Elder Tales. A hardcore player that truly knows and enjoys the game, and naturally progress faster than the causal guys. Well, at least, most causal guys that also play support I guess

I mentioned that Shiroe had avoided guilds ever since his experience with one (the first and probably also his last before the story begins) left him with a lingering bad taste about how people could use others so callously (he was in his middle school years, so, yeah, emo and angst~). This experience colored his outlook so much that for a period of time he avoided forming long-time relationships with other players. He either joined parties (which are temporary in nature) or went solo. While he's a lone-wolf in this fashion, during this time in the past he was not too against the idea of forming short-term partnerships when the need came up.

On a side-note things changed as he grew older and gradually out of that silly angst-filled youth (time washes everything bland, even emo. For most at least). And then there was the Debauchery Tea Party, that bunch of people bond by not ties of profit but the idea of enjoying the game to its fullest. That's should quite enough to thaw his shell =3


Regarding his choice of class, as mentioned, this is a guy that likes to explore what the game has to offer. To him, the Enchanter is a class that suits his tastes, one which according to Blessed Mamare, "comprises of a wide range of possibilities". Also...

Originally Posted by Rough translation from Volume 1, Prologue

Of course it would be nice if it could boast of some inherent advantages. But even if it doesn't, he could also work things out and enjoy in his own way. This is Shiroe's playing style.

So we have a guy that doesn't mind playing with a handicap; if there's one, he'll just work around it and still have fun

I must confess that I had little interest in this series, but not because I wrote it off as a cheap SAO counterfeit. It kinda reminded me of Senyuu and Xion Saga. After listening to the op a couple a dozen times and scrutinizing the characters, I must bow to its potential.

To be quite honest, I'm just a bit worried if the OP (and all this comparisons and counter-comparisons with SAO) has created too much a hype or not

Originally Posted by Helius

Problem is that, as others have said, this probably got greenlit because TPTB wanted to ride on the success of SAO. Yes, the premise is different, but the connection is there. Had that show not been made there would've been nothing else to relate Log Horizon to, except maybe .hack.

Truth be told, I don't mind LogHora being compared to .hack, or at least, .hack//sign. One of the things I love about //sign was how it wove personal issues and relationships into the story and imho made it work. LogHora doesn't have //sign's intimate touch imho; ultimately it's more about groups of people working together to live in a strange new(?) world, but a central theme, perhaps best demonstrated by its main PoV character, is that people have to rely and work with each other to get things done; aka no one person/player is an island.

Personally I think it's better to let folks see what's it's like for themselves. If they change their mind and the experience rewards them, then cheers to them! If they still think otherwise... *shrugs*