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Originally Posted by Levy
now this is an interesting thread =)
ahaah LOL, after having disagreed so much on this, now you brought up a point I can agree with. I don't think that Schneizel was sure to have such an easy game in making the BK lose all of their trust in Zero, and underestimated their emotive reaction and personal hatred toward him as he undiclosed his files, and there you have to start to wonder why...
but... it was not just Ohgi that felt affected personally by Lelouch's betrayal. Take for example the pained look with wich Tohdoh remebers Asahina's last word and the way he called his name: that event affected him too on a personal level - he might seem more rightfull in his emotive reaction, because being affected by the loss of a comrade is commonly considered an honorable thing, but it's not being 'rational' either. You can easily assume that the same thing goes for Chiba.
And all of this is perfectly understandable on an emotive level.
we'll never know if and when they did - that is a side plot that was not developed if not offscreen, and in ep.19 all things concerning Zero were much more of a priority then investigating about the previous relationship between Ohgi and Villetta. It's not that him being in love with Villetta changes anything about the evidences Schneizel presented and that Villetta was able to confirm - because, for the tenth times of more, Ohgi knows from before falling for her that Villetta was aware of Zero's true identity, that was the reason why he sheltered her...
are you sure he did...? because, I'm not that fresh on s1, but Schneizel was the one encouraging Euphie to go ahead with the SAZ, even thought, that would have meant reducing the egemony of Britannia. But the SAZ was also a way to stop the guerrilla in Area11, because inviting Zero to join it, Euphie had cornered him in accepting to bury the hatchet or became an enemy of the same nation he was claiming to fight for...
This makes sense with the idea that Schneizel was more than ready to accept compromises in order to obtain peace, even loosing some territories, if that would turn out as the more effective solution.
Another thing I'm quite confused about is, when does Schneizel realized that also the new Zero was Lelouch?
I think he knew already at their meeting in China....
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Toudou was more justified in my eyes because it is in keeping with his beliefs. He made it perfectly clear that he would turn on Zero if Zero harmed the Japanese. Asahina's testimony from that guy gave him the doubts in Zero, it was not purely an emotional response from Toudou but rather one that is born from evidence that Asahina presented to him as well as his own beliefs and goals.
The problem with the idea that Villetta confirming for Ougi about Zero is that she had no evidence of anything either other then her word for it. Ougi took Villetta at her word, the word of an enemy soldier that tried to kill him twice. Schneizel really had nothing but circumstantial evidence to pull it off and Villetta did not even have anything. Schneizel's geass files was just a bunch of folders with people in it that they
think Lelouch used some, as of then, never before heard of mystical power to bewitch. They really had no evidence to speak of that did not involve the Black Knights having to actually trust them as a source of information in such a critical time in their war with Britannia. The only semi concrete thing they have was the recording with Suzaku, but such things can be faked, and even Kallen remarked in season one that just the voice carrying over a radio is not enough to identify someone, the recording is not much better.
Schneizel accepted the SAZ to corner Zero. It was not really a loss of territory for Britannia considering that Britannia still had control over it. Once the Black Knights were demilitarized and/or contained, nothing is really there to make Britannia honour their agreement. Infact it may even be tempting for them to arrange some massive accident for the SAZ as it contains all the numbers that are unwilling to conform with Britannian society. We simply do not know much about Schneizel in season one, or two for that matter.