[DragoonKain3]

Originally Posted by GDB

No. If you're going to make a Rally user, it should be either the Avatar, their child, or a Spotpass/DLC character. Rally Spectrum is far too good to go without if you're going to devote a unit to the idea anyway.

The way I see it, now that I finally actually got to play with Bride...

CASE A
Nah as Rallyer: Avatar/Morgan gets to have 2 attacks that is powered by Luna/Ignis (chance of proccing either at 38 SKL: 62%), a 20 power Aversa's Night (which never degrades in durability due to me giving luck based class pair up bonuses), with at least 47 MAG and 44 SPD before pair up bonuses

Nah rallies for +6 for the relevant stats (STR/SPD/MAG), +2 to everything else. Still has one skill slot for other purposes


CASE B
Morgan F as Rallyer: +6 to every stat, +4 STR/SPD/MAG. Used up all skill slots

Nah essentially has a 14 power Dragonstone+, 43 STR but usually only one attack due to low SPD


So is the difference between +10 and +6 to the relevant offensive stats worth it to have an extra 2 attacks with a strong unit, potentially 4 with galeforce? I personally don't think so, especially since Manakete has higher defensive stats that tends for them to be ignored by the enemy even post Rally.

Also note that everyone around gets +6 DEF/RES with case B, which means the Morgan Rallyer is now gonna be the prime target for aggro due to everyone else having higher resists. And with no skill slots, plus Noseferatu/Aversa's Night only having 20/10 durability, I hope you have extra stock and lots of money. And if you're a physical based Avatar/Morgan, having no Sol means you are essentially dead meat by the hordes of enemies at lunatic. XD

Vehemently disagree here. Vaike makes her the best Hero in the game, and Ragnell > Swordmaster weapons. Also gives her access to better defense, axes, and MUCH higher strength, which still being pretty damned fast. Plus, blonde.

Ragnell can go to someone else. I usually give it to Lucina being that Swords don't have a range 2 weapon apart from that and Amatsu, and Lucina tends to be Great Lord anyways.

Also note that 51 SPD is the maximum to double attack practically any unit in the game, and Lon'qu gives Swordsmaster Severa 52 SPD. This can be up to 60 SPD with pair up bonuses via Berserker (dodge everything via Lon'qu giving her access to all breaker skills), or preferably it allows her pair to be the vastly superior Warrior (which gives her comparable defenses at 40/36, compared to 41/34).

A Vaike fathered Severa would in turn need to have their paired up unit to be a Berserker (which IMO isn't a good class end game due to their crappy SKL cap AND Axes being the most inaccurate of the weapon types), or a Taguel/Dread Fighter (both being inferior to Warrior in offensive punch).

More importantly, Vaike doesn't offer Severa either Vantage (no Myrmidon) or even Counter (have to inherit Axefaire since no Swordfaire), which that alone IMO is worth being at 58 effective STR (40 max stat + 10 pair up + 5 Swordfaire + 3 Rank A) instead of 63 (47 max stat + 10 pair up + 5 axefair + 1 Rank A). When you're at less than half health in danger of being killed, having Vantage allows you to outright ignore low HP enemies, or it gives you the extra chance to proc Sol in order to live,. (and when you're at full, you want to attack later anyways jsut in case they hit you)

And nothing is stopping from Lon'qu fathered Severa from being a Hero (3 less STR and 1 less DEF for +2 SPD/SKL and Vantage), though I prefer not doing it this way because her partner doesn't get LCK bonus (which allows you to have 100% armsthrift to keep the durability on stuff like Hector's Axe/Hellswath) and now you have to give her Ragnell.


Why am I so bent on having a Warrior? Because being paired up with Inigo fathered by Stahl gives him access to bowfaire, allowing you to cherry pick problematic Counter based enemies with a 4-hit 15 power Brave Bow backed by 58 effective STR (51 max stat + 5 bowfaire + 2 Rank A), then after activating Galeforce, retreat or switch out weapon/active unit depending on the situation.

Which A-rank weapons? Like Brave weapons? You can buy them.

Grandivus mainly (you know the 10000 renown weapon). I hate having to farm for Hammernes, as I tend to save them for Ragnell since Lucina can't be paired with someone that gives STR and LCK as a class bonus. Donnel fathered Kjelle means she would reach 49 LCK. At that point you can pair her up with anyone with at least 10 LCK and she can use that OP weapon with impunity.

As far as first gen goes, I agree. However, you can make him/her the best in anything by pairing with a 2nd gen. So this one's just whatever.

It's not so much Morgan (who is great at everthing) I am worried about as it is Morgan's sibling, who can greatly benefit from access to all classes.

That is, my problem would be Lucina (if Avatar F - MAG Asset/LCK flaw), since Aether + Rightful King isnt consistent enough, or Noire (Avatar M - MAG asset/STR flaw), which I can't pass up on another Galeforce user since Avatar M don't have access to it.

Sounds like you're almost making the same mistake I did initially. She makes a great healer, which I originally forgot to plan for.

Laurent is my standalone dedicated healer (you only really need one), since he naturally gets access to tomefaire/mag +2 for a long distance healer Sage, or dual support+/axefaire for a more close up War Monk (assuming you inherit Priest from father). In either case Laurent gets Kellam because of access to Dual Guard/Pavise/Healtouch.

And with Bride being released and I'm testing more characters now, I actually like Noire now as the pair to Morgan-M, with skills being Bowfaire/Anathema/Dual Guard/Hex. Then Virion as father to give access to Deliverer.