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Originally Posted by Kamui4356
What exactly is this point? That Israel's completely innocent and anyone who thinks otherwise is at best falling for Hamas' propaganda?
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the point is that israeli tactics are a result of hamas tactics
they are the product of people in the IDF sitting down and saying "this is what hamas is doing, how do we deal with it"
hamas plants mines and IED along the streets
israel responds by using bulldozers to clear the way
hamas sets up ambushes inside houses
israel responds by knocking down houses instead of sending troops in
hamas hides weapon stashs in homes
israel responds by bombing those homes (after warning the people to GTFO)
notice that if you go around and try thinking it as
hamas are trying to think "this is how israel works, how do we deal with this" you end up showing them for the monsters they are
@Vexx
if you believed that the hamas mearly represents the views of the palestinian people as a whole and acts in their name
would you still have a problem with us fighting them ?
the votes seem to impley that to be the case
is there something wrong with two peoples who have a conflict going to war ?
the PR battle is lost to begin with
we dont try and wage it on the public stage, but on the goverment stage
why do you think the leaders of half of europe were in olmarts home for a dinner party 24 hours after the cease-fire
why do you think eygpt agrees to help stop smuggling
we dont aim at the public (we try, but the world by default supports the poor basterds)
you know perfectly well that hamas are evil (not the palestinians, hamas specificlly)
not "well intentionad extremsts" or "knight templar" evil
full on dog-raping-baby-eating-evil
you know that they booby trap homes, and schools, and in one very odd case- a petting zoo (IDF forces actually took care of the animals to keep them from starving to death)
they plant mines and IED's in the street and on roads inside the city and refugee camps
they intentioanlly dont wear uniforms, thus making it hard to tell who is a civilian and who isnt, putting civilains at risk
they force their way into people's homes and fire from their rooftops hoping to increase the death toll (read: murder the family with israeli tank shells)
they drag children with them in the street hoping that their ENEMY would avoid hurting them to spare the kids (can you imagne it working the other way around)
they convince teenagers (who are by nature easy to convince) to strap explosives to themselves and go kill other women and children with legends of heaven
they teach children that jews are apes and pigs and that god hates them and wants them to die
in fact they teach children that the best they can asspire to become on this earth as a martyr
they shoot anyone who speaks out against them in the back of the knees to criple them for life (and if someone actualy ACTS against them they kill them out right)
they loot UN aid trucks that are sent with food and medicene
they use crowded places where people gather as combat positions becosue it would make the ENEMY less likely to hit them there
they intentioanlly violate international law and use ambulances to transport troops and weapons (thus putting all ambulances at risk of being hit)
and thats the things they do to THEIR OWN PEOPLE
thats not even counting what they do to US
name an international war crime and they have commited it
you know all those things
but you nevertheless complain about israeli action as if we are on the same moral ground
the best accusation that you can level at israel and the IDF is that you dont think they try HARD ENOUGH to prevent civilian deaths on the ENEMY side
dont you think that there is something slightly odd with that one ?