[haguruma]

Okay, so I'm trying to carry over the conversation from the previous thread, which is now just for movies 1 and 2.

I saw the movie on the weekend it came out and I'm still confused as hell what I actually watched. The review on Kotaku was expressing pretty well how I felt, confused and a little bit annoyed by several decisions that were made. As a movie for itself it is horrible, because in the end nothing actually happens (the few events that do happen are retreads of prior events), the rest is exposition. Still I was kind of entertained...

Originally Posted by Renegade334

So that means...

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that at the end of 3.0, Asuka decides to forsake Will-e and run away with Rei and Shinji?

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Well, when Kaworu refers to Gendo as the King of the Lilim he really does seem to count all humanity together. He also said that the Lilim are trying to bring about the Impacts.

I wouldn't be surprised if (Rebuild-)Asuka did not consider herself part of humanity anymore at the end of 3.0. She went through several horrible events and was used and abused by all sides. We also do not yet know what Wille's actual plan for rebuilding the world is...they pretty much seem to be taking the role that the military had in EoE.

Yes, I was thinking that, too, but...

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if there were four of them during SI, what did NERV/SEELE retrieve at Bethany Base - the Key of Nebuchadnezzar thingy? I know it was never confirmed to be a reduced Adam, but if it is the case, there's a possibility there might be three more of those lying around.

And if the Impact mechanics are still in line with EoE's, the KoN could be used to kickstart Fourth Impact in 4.0...

I thing most of the rules are still intact, though the basics of how Evas function are thrown all over the place.

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There is one scene between Fuyutsuki and Gendo (though I'm confused right now if it was in 2.22 or in 3.0) where the focus was on a briefcase and they were discussing whether with this it would be possible to carry out their plan. That would fit if it was one of the Adam embryos.

Originally Posted by KleenexGhost

Yeah, I can see them doing a reset ending.

Well, I still think it hangs in the ballance.

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Everything Kaworu said basically hinted at this already being a reset. Things like, "To become perfect at anything you have to practice over and over again," when they were playing piano. But most important of all, before he died (btw. again loosing his head in the process) he said, "Don't worry, for we will meet again."

There are also the many hints that in the interim of 14 years at some point something similar to EoE must have happened. The headless body, the giant, eyeless head of Rei that Gendo is talking to, most of humanity in stasis within the sea of LCL.

The only thing I'm still wondering about and which not even suspension of disbelief is able to help with

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How in heaven's name were Wille able to build that giant flying battleship? Sure, the Rebuild world was generally a lot more advanced compared to the TV series, with the station on the moon and several other elements, but most of humanity was destroyed and the world is in ruin...

I really hope that the 4th movie will bring a lot more explanations to several of the changes...