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Old 2010-07-19, 07:19   Link #14186
Jan-Poo
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: forever lost inside a logic error
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Originally Posted by Kylon99 View Post
This is all assuming we can trust the red text that says people are dead. We know there's some kind of problem for Kanon at least... I keep thinking about what Jan-Poo said. Eva-B's red: "No life forms other than humans have any connection to this game." It makes it all so easy and tempting that it's 'dead' from in a 'game.' Ugh...

Just to add a bit more about the idea of the siblings faking the deaths though:
1. They would need to produce the body of Kinzo to fake in EP3.
2. They would then need to be in league with all the servants for that body + their willingness to fake in EP1, 3, and 4. Plus also to prepare the materials on hand for the faking.
3. They would need the co-operation of Krauss and Natsuhi themselves in various episodes, EP1, 2, 4 and 6...

If the siblings were doing it in order to reveal the death of Kinzo, simply producing the body is good enough, right?
About that I've found something interesting:

Now the character TIPS are usually garbage but among the garbage some gems could be hidden. What if this is a gem? What if Ryuukishi just told us in EP3 what the epitaph serial murder actually is?

Let's say it is a game. Then we can speculate that in EP3 Eva was selected as the "culprit". That way we can explain the last scene as simply the prosecution of the game, the guns are fake or loaded with blanks.
Eva "killed" Battler only in the game. Battler lost the culprit won, game over.

In EP2 it is possible that Rosa was elected as detective. That would explain her overly suspicious attitude and at the same time why she doesn't suspect Beatrice which she supposedly met. If it was a game, then she simply had to find who is the culprit among the people, and of course Beatrice was excluded. She also wasn't really surprised to find the deads in the first twilight. Maybe she was a little thrown off by the overly realistic display. She didn't seem particularly devastated 'though.

Or maybe to win the game you just need to "survive" and reach the golden land. That would explain the wolf and sheep puzzle reasoning. That would also better explain Natsuhi's actions in EP1.

The EP4 becomes even more easy to explain. Those who "die" become captured pieces, they need to wear a goat mask and do exactly as Beatrice commands.
Jessica and Kyrie must have had to say to Battler all those things because they were already "killed". Actually.... Jessica was already "killed".

As usual everything makes completely sense if people didn't die for real.
Is this the venomous trick Ryuukishi was talking about? That "dead" doesn't mean "dead"? That in this game only "personalities" can die, furniture or not?

But if this is the case....
Then can we be totally sure that Kinzo is dead?
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