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Originally Posted by Oliver

That Beatrice's power is at one moment said to be being accepted by others with two people making up a world, bringing imagination up to the level of truth through feeling and connection, and in the next moment equated to metallic gold and greed is for this reason supremely offensive to anyone who holds "love" as an ideal. It tarnishes not just Beatrice, or, say, Maria who joins in on that world, but the entire cast. Let alone the author who produced this blasphemy.

But it never says that in any of those games. Just because you hold love as the ultimate ideal does not mean anything in the long run, especially if you are dealing with murder.
It is not 'Beatrice's power' which is equated with one or the other, it is magic which is handled that way. The Golde Witch Beatrice is just an image, created by the inhabitants of that island, who never existed in the first place. Magic has so many different sides within Umineko, I don't understand why you take so much offense in it being likened to the influence that gold has on people.

As much as your definition of love as the 'greates power of all' might be admirable, it isn't the only powerful influence in the world and most people would choose money or fame over love...so if you equal magic to power, then of course that much gold would be your key to magical powers.

Sure, that's how witches are supposed to behave. But authors who do that sort of thing cater only to a very narrow crowd of depressed nihilists.

What is happening here is called detective and mystery fiction and while it might be something that has mostly died out in the west in a classical sense, it is very much alive and kicking in Japan. If you don't like what you get, then maybe Umineko just isn't your kind of genre.
Engaging in a murder mystery and expecting it to get a 純愛-plot like most works by Key is just wrong ....

Tell me then, why are you reading a story, and not police reports? Mind you, the ideal you profess here is reason. Have fun trying to convince yourself that the Kyrie Rampage makes sense, unless you already did.

If Kyrie was pressured in any way into commiting those deeds it would make perfect sense. Considering her sisters behaviour it wouldn't even be that hard to believe at all that Kyrie had similar traits...people can be quite cold if it comes to personal well-being.
And maybe she was saying those things to Eva, because she knew that if Eva survived it would be the only way to make her care for Ange. There are so many ways to explain what she did without making it a senseless rampage.

This has nothing to do with cold-blooded behaviour or just being interested in facts. But this is still at least part murder mystery and in murder you CAN'T rely on love, because as there are 愛がなければ視えないもの, there are　愛があるから視えないもの.