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Originally Posted by Toua
I don't know if you've noticed this, but "outsiders" are already being fed that "myriad" of different terms. ANN likes to vary between them. Lately they've been sticking to terms such as "adult PC game", they've used "visual novel" for labeling AIR and Higurashi no Naku Koroni, also "dating simulation" some time ago. I've actually found a news entry with the term "erotic adult PC dating simulation game". ^^;
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Well, that's my point though. If we, as a community, start getting really anal and sending more mixed messages like "that's not a visual novel, it's an AVG game! Learn the difference, fools!", it'll get even worse! At least "adult PC game" has the benefit of being generic. Probably
too generic and reminscient of "porn game", but still...
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Originally Posted by Toua
But these are Japanese games. It's good to remember that they will always be a niché of a niché of a niché. The ones looking to cross over to this side will have to do some hard digging by themselves before they'll even have a chance to stumble upon the efforts of this small group of passionate otaku.
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Well, I don't think we're doing ourselves any favours by increasing the barrier of entry through a plethora of terms. I for one would like to make it as easy as possible to get people to cross over so that this "niche of a niche of a niche" (no accent, BTW) doesn't have to stay that way much longer. Anime, manga, and now light novels have made or are making the transition... I don't think it's impossible if we take a long-term view.
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Originally Posted by Toua
I don't see much sense in establishing a sup category term, especially not some twisted creation that will haunt us years from now. Then again I really don't see any sin in labeling AVGs as "visual novels". My suggestion was grossly addressing the ones present in this topic.
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Well, in that case I have no problem. I don't really want to create a new term, but I would want to stop using the current term
if a lot of people disagree that it's the better one to use. I like "visual novel" as a catch-all. I guess I was just voicing concern about the original poster's comment about "at least learn to tell apart your visual novels from your AVG games!" That, to me, seems to be going down a deadend road, even if it's accurate. First get people in the door, and down the road, they'll learn to appreciate the difference...