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Old 2011-12-11, 04:59   Link #131
Grey
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Originally Posted by Morisato View Post
Clearly Rider's not a "all for me!" ruler. If he really was such a selfish tyrant, he wouldn't console Waver for his failures all the time and his men wouldn't follow him to the after life. Rider is a leader (with charisma). Saber is a martyr. I can see why Caster mistakes Saber for Joan of Arc. They're really no different.

Rider does consider his people but what would reviving his empire do? What's done is done. Saber wants to mess with (several hundred years of) history.
No, Rider specifically says that the King doesn't sacrifice himself for his people, but the people sacrifice themselves for the King. What consideration for his people is that? What is that but selfish tyranny? It's almost the exact opposite of modern responsible governance and accountability to the people.

I think you're confusing his comradeship with his fellow warriors with how he sees Kingship and responsibility to the average person.
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